BleedWell
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I legitimately can't tell if people are trolling or not.
Too late we already did. Jost should have stayed in North Dakota for one extra year or played in the AHL. He was thrown into a scoring role in the NHL before he was ready. I think it has had an effect on his development.I think Jost is gonna be fine as long as we don't rush him into a role he's not ready for.
Projects Jost to be 50 pt winger=gives up on Jost as a player.
If Jost never put up more than 30 points in the NHL do you think those people would say they were right or wrong about Jost?
If Jost ends up only being a 30 point player that means I’d be wrong. That would mean almost every poster here was wrong about him.
Kudos to you for your honesty. I'm not sure that would be the case for all involved. Given your honesty I think it's genuine on your part, but the 50 point winger idea feels like a backtrack most of the time when I see it brought up. I had never seen that projection among his critics until recently.
Kudos to you for your honesty. I'm not sure that would be the case for all involved. Given your honesty I think it's genuine on your part, but the 50 point winger idea feels like a backtrack most of the time when I see it brought up. I had never seen that projection among his critics until recently.
Yep. Not every poster but you and many more definitely. There are many of you that gets crazy thrilled over nothing (Jost, Kamenev...)If Jost ends up only being a 30 point player that means I’d be wrong. That would mean almost every poster here was wrong about him.
What a nice and comfortable way to stay in your bubbleEvery now & then I'll click "show ignored content" and be reminded not to do that again for a few weeks
Yep. Not every poster but you and many more definitely. There are many of you that gets crazy thrilled over nothing (Jost, Kamenev...)
Definitely trolling. If not... YikesI legitimately can't tell if people are trolling or not.
I don't think he's necessarily proving me right or the people still invested heavily wrong, but last night was kind of a microcosm of what I find problematic about his game. His lack of top-end speed is apparent, and his lack of size and the ability to fight through checks is another obvious issue, but what concerns me is that he doesn't process the game fast enough to counteract those other two issues. I also don't see nearly enough when he's trying to move the puck on open ice. He's far too easily beaten 1-on-1 and doesn't do nearly enough to protect the puck. I really want to see more of that shot, but part of the issue is that he doesn't read the play well enough nor does he have enough size/strength to get in a position to use it. I think with better linemates we'd see better, but...I'm not seeing an impact player in-the-making here.
Yes, yes, I know, he's only 20. But right now all I'm seeing is Ryan Strome, who was another high-end pick who just sorta petered out into a generic third line guy.
I'm just gonna be honest with y'all...I'm getting a little tired of feeling the need to pad my consternation over his development because of the anticipated blowback (however justified) I'll receive over this. So I'll just say this once more--I would LOVE for him to prove me wrong. But I don't think he will. And I also think he needs to become an impact player in his own right. Just being an "okay" player is not good enough. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong, wouldn't be the first time. But I think this is gonna be one of the few true whiffs of the Hepple era. Only time will tell if I was way too hasty to make this declaration.
I guess that's an interesting take on it. For me, there were a few shifts he had in the 1st period that I thought were poor and I thought he bounced back well in the mid-2nd and 3rd periods and did some good things out there. I don't share your opinion overall but it's good to get a different take. I thought he was unlucky with the shot that squeaked through Koskinen and rolled just wide and the point-blank, 'look what I found' save by Koskinen late in the 3rd was ridiculous. He could have easily had a couple of goals which would have helped for his confidence but at least he's getting chances.
I tend to look beyond that though because while it's a good sign the chances are there, I'm more interested in his global game. I do think you're right about the 1-on-1 and he's going to have to work on that but I do like his board play overall. I'd like to see him paired up with Soderberg, there have been a few shifts this year when Soda's gotten on before Jost had gotten off and they seemed to have some chemistry together. Bednar won't probably try it but it would be nice to see him get to play with some different players.
The Ryan Strome comparison is ...I dunno what to say about that. It's not close. Let's not forget that at the start of the year, Jost was put in the #2C spot for the first 8 games and practically everyone agreed that he acquitted himself quite well. Even though we were winning all people kept complaining about was the secondary scoring that was missing. The Avs need to figure out how they want to bring him along. For me, I'd probably put Soda as the defacto #2C and Jost as the #3C and bring him along like they did with ROR. Little by little giving him more responsibility but that's just me.
Strome? Good two way? Never heard that before.
There are multiple references to how smart of hockey player he is through his career. He seems to play to his strengths and read plays well. He limits turnovers and, more importantly, can play great defense. He might lack the pure ability to be an elite defender, but he actively looks to defend the slot and serves as an excellent penalty killer. That may be a big part of why Rangers are interested in him. The Rangers are 21st in penalty kill with lots of room for improvement.
That said he's not doing much of anything useful in any games. He's just kind of Tysoning around.Jost isn’t a completely useless player... just cuz he won’t be a big time elite player doesn’t mean we can’t be excited about what he’ll bring in the future.
That said he's not doing much of anything useful in any games. He's just kind of Tysoning around.