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Players have to put it in to make playoffs and there are afew that AV will feud with in the main core.
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You should never take stock in any regression that doesn’t have an error posted or one where you can’t derive/solve for. These stats have that, so you can see how your analysis differs... that’s why I quoted you up there.
You can’t calculate the error by hand (you’d have to use some heavy software) unless you had all the time in the world, also, statistical comparisons on the margin don’t work in that case time with time-sensitive data; only because the variance becomes volatile.
Technically speaking, you would have to assume it’s all controlled (excluding games that go to OT), however, again- those regressions look at sample data (ie the players stats), but it’s based on population data.
Yes, stats don’t tell the whole story, but people who argue against them mainly don’t understand the use of them... not trying to be that way, but all the arguments seem very ‘simple’, when this is complex.
You’re not going to find someone who did everything the same (you wouldn’t need to regress any differences, lol), but this is a weird industry to use comparative stats.
Some you can use based off of time are predictive regressions, BUT, you can’t marginalize it to the league average. Stuff like that.
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Braun and pitlick. Probably Hayes too. They are going to destroy the team.
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Again that's hindsight. When the rumors were running around that Subban was available, it was pre-Therien becoming an AC. Now, there was a pact, and yada yada yada, but the two were not mutually exclusive.
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You wouldn't think that based on the overwelmingly negative atmosphere around here this summer
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Probably because nearly all of the good on the roster was there before this summer. 
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You wouldn't think that based on the overwelmingly negative atmosphere around here this summer
It’s tough to say goodbye to a D pairing as classic as Hagg-MacDonald
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Imagine thinking this is an effective pairing and getting paid for icing that pairing
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hatcher
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Someone should take the clips from the Amac highlight reel, slow them down and play this over top.
A lot had to go right last year for us to make the playoffs. Our goaltending was bottom 5 in the league and our D was bottom 8 or so. You also can't divorce coaching from roster. I think goaltending is still an open issue. Hart is very talented but the shooters will learn his tendencies quickly and he will probably have ups and downs as he continues to mature. Elliot cant stay healthy. Coaching to me is the biggest upgrade although I think the D will also be much better this year. Av's has had a lot of very good goalies and he seems to handle them well.
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With the bad goalies, and bad defense, the forward group still almost over compensated and made this a playoff team. A true bubble, got popped about two weeks before seasons end. If one were to say a team is bottom 5 goalies, and bottom 8 defense, that sounds like a team that has been eliminated from the playoffs before Valentine's Day. Flyers were in it for about a month longer to almost St. Patty's Day.
The coaching choices/methods were that bad.
hatcher
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Forwards got called out by fletcher for playing the wrong way and were a major reason the d looked bad. Forwards are in for it now that we got real coaches that have pull.
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hatcher
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Fletcher called them out for not doing what the coaches wanted. Gordon wanted more forecheck and backcheck and more attack but half the forwards wont do it. Players time is up now so if it isn't looking good the rest are going next off season.
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Fowards were far more disciplined under Hakstol, just compare TK in 2017-18 with TK the second half of last year.
Hopefully, AV will find the happy medium, using "tough love" to make sure forwards handle their responsibilities (like maintaining gap control and providing outlet targets for the D-men, and getting back on defense), but allowing them to attack the net when the opportunity presents itself instead of cycling around the perimeter.
Of course it helps to dump deadwood, Bailey, Weise, Lehtera, Weal, Hartman, Simmonds, Varone, Knight - 259 games between them last year.
Hopefully, AV will find the happy medium, using "tough love" to make sure forwards handle their responsibilities (like maintaining gap control and providing outlet targets for the D-men, and getting back on defense), but allowing them to attack the net when the opportunity presents itself instead of cycling around the perimeter.
Of course it helps to dump deadwood, Bailey, Weise, Lehtera, Weal, Hartman, Simmonds, Varone, Knight - 259 games between them last year.
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When the revolution comes, pants will do you no gd
Your argument may have some merit. However, taking to task what was obviously the Flyers' strength of last season (the forwards) and blaming them for the poor affects of the season appear disingenuous. The thing that was most responsible for us winning, is also the thing most responsible for us losing is not truly mutually exclusive. However, one should be able to see the two statements not fitting together seamlessly.
hatcher
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It does go hand in hand with the d though and why we were always down 1 or 2 goals.
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Dude, just look at them under Hakstol when they played a cohesive defensive system. They supported the defensemen and they were good defensively. Gordon had them trying to run up ice for stretch passes and it constantly left the D alone. Gordon preaching backchecking while preaching play-pushing wasn't compatible with each other.
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Of course it’s hindsight. Folks get mad when we dont draft player x in round 3. But all that works both ways. This team has hit on players that other teams passed on.
