Prospect Info: Travis Dermott Upside
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Need more defensive prospects like him in the fold. I just see a mature game from him when I watch him play..if that makes sense. Interesting to see what he brings next year.
Carrick has the tools to excel very highly in the AHL. Dermott's game is more suited to be successful in the next level. He's also a few years older.
Carrick has the offensive edge but Dermott is better or could be better at almost everything else.
Time will tell but Dermott looks to be more well rounded than Carrick
It takes time to become a stable solid d-man. These young guys show their skill but also their lack of experience. I look at Ryan Ellis in Nashville - it's taken him since 2011 to be become what he now is this year. I like the patience the new Leafs org is showing with the younger players. I want Carrick to stay and develop here.
How Carrick goes may be an indicator of how Dermott may go. Both are good young talents. Throw in this Borgman kid now and we have a growing stable.
I agree with you. Patience is the key to development. That said Dermott may come out with a better knack for scoring in the nhl that carrick. Who knows?
Carrick and Dermott are pretty even in skill imo. They skate well handle the puck well. Carrick scores better, Dermott is stronger and better in his own end. Having both in the pool is a good thing.
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Probably the worst comparison I've seen about a player in a long time.
Agreed, not who I think of at all when I think of current or past nhl comparables.
I can't think of several differences very quickly.
Probably the worst comparison I've seen about a player in a long time.
i agree, i don't think he's done enough can openers.
if anyone is superficially closer to maccabe, it's nielsen, canon shot, weak front to back skating and not great edgework, strong legs and out of position.
however, i'm hoping he becomes more like our weber lite.
dermott, i can't think of a comparable off of the top of my head, but that's not a bad thing. he could be in a ryan murray category; very good skating and sense, but not overpowering in any trait.
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So Dermott is making the Leafs most likely?
Rielly ______
Gardiner Carrick
Dermott Zaitsev
Marincin/Rosen Marchenko
Imagine 3 top 4 pairs.
Rielly ______
Gardiner Carrick
Dermott Zaitsev
Marincin/Rosen Marchenko
Imagine 3 top 4 pairs.
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I was pleased with Carrick and I think he will keep progressing. He's got a good skillset, just makes dumb plays sometimes.
More time under Babs means more fixed.
More time under Babs means more fixed.
Dermott is not making the leafs most likely. I will be surprised if he makes it this year. I think Rosen or Bergman have a better shot. Dermott is still pretty young. Could benefit from another full year.
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Yeah, Carrick is an NHL player.
Remember when he went down in the regular season and Marincin/Marchenko had to play instead. Our top 3 guys + Hunwick all saw huge minute increases.
Yes, he was mediocre at best in the playoffs... but I think the Caps are a bad matchup for him because of their size and speed.
But hes still improving, he can handle a puck, and he is fearless.
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I question whether he is an NHL player. His play with the puck has not been good (18 points in 120 NHL games), and his play without the puck leaves a lot to be desired. I think right now Travis Dermott is the superior player, and see no reason why this would change in the future.
well, i think he's better than hunwick who was awful even past the all star break. he really only improved towards the end of the regular season from what i remember.
i have dermott ahead of marincin, hunwick, carrick and marchenko. he's nhl ready now and i don't really see what another seaons in a slower league will do to improve him. he needs better opposition even on third pairing.
i have dermott ahead of marincin, hunwick, carrick and marchenko. he's nhl ready now and i don't really see what another seaons in a slower league will do to improve him. he needs better opposition even on third pairing.
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This guy gets it. We want to win now and Dermott in the NHL gives us the best opportunity to do so. If I thought it detrimental for him to play next year in the NHL, I would recommend he stay in the AHL. As long as he skates a regular shift in the NHL (ie. gets more than 15mins of ice time a game), I don't see how bringing him into the NHL is detrimental to his development, especially since our NHL coaching staff have shown the ability to improve young dman.
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I think someone like Vatanen is an appropriate comparison at this point. Skates well, has some offensive ability, and is very competitive defensively. Travis is still young, so his game could change once he reaches the next level, but that's what we can likely expect from him.
Andrew Nielsen reminds a bit of McCabe but never Dermott - totally different player types.
HE is smart and strong enough to be a mid pairing Dmen.
Funny thing is, if he is a RHD and is 6'2, we will probably be saying he is top pairing materials.
Funny thing is, if he is a RHD and is 6'2, we will probably be saying he is top pairing materials.
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2017/05/03/travis-dermott-next-in-line-on-the-maple-leafs-blue-line/
A fun read for those interested.
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"Dermott progressed in an almost trial by fire, learning to adjust to the AHL pace and increased physicality of the AHL."
... Um, what else was supposed to happen in his development?
... Um, what else was supposed to happen in his development?
He could have flopped or struggled. Also I take the "trial by fire" to insinuate that he progressed quickly while overcoming obsticles, in particular his injury.
