Proposal: Trade Thread #61

[Mrb1p]

What?

Who is calling Danault the GOAT?

Because that doesn't jive AT ALL with what I've seen.

Obvious exaggeration, but you can still take a peek at his thread and realize people think hes part of one of the best line in hockey.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Obvious exaggeration, but you can still take a peek at his thread and realize people think hes part of one of the best line in hockey.

He is part of one of the best ES lines in hockey. That's not even debatable. That line frequently plays against the other teams best players, starts a lot in the defensive zone, has great underlying numbers almost across the board and has one of the best ES on-ice goal differentials is the NHL.

Unless you think the measure of a good hockey line is "line with the most talented players" or "line that scores the most" and not "line that outplays their opponents" or "line that frequently outscores their opponents", then I'm not sure what the issue is.

 

[Mrb1p]

He is part of one of the best ES lines in hockey. That's not even debatable. That line frequently plays against the other teams best players, starts a lot in the defensive zone, has great underlying numbers almost across the board and has one of the best ES on-ice goal differentials is the NHL.

Unless you think the measure of a good hockey line is "line with the most talented players" or "line that scores the most" and not "line that outplays their opponents" or "line that frequently outscores their opponents", then I'm not sure what the issue is.

Hockey is too fluid of a sport to propose this kimd of line by line comparisons.

 

[Kimota]

Can the Habs not pry Larry out of the Capital?bring him back where he belong.

That's an interesting thing to explore.

 

[ZUKI]

What does he do at over 3 million that you can’t find in a league minimum player?

+- 20 goals/season on a 82 games ratio

 

[FF de Mars]

What is Mete's trade value? I'd rather Bergevin not trade him because of depth, but some youtuber is suggesting the Canucks acquiring him, as they have problems on defense. Maybe Mete could pick a page out of Hugues' playbook if it were to happen.

 

[nhlfan9191]

+- 20 goals/season on a 82 games ratio

He isn’t producing those numbers playing the the way he has the last 2 years. Should we put Perry on the first line because he scored 50 goals in the past?

 

[1909]

Laine wanted to play on the first line but Wheeler and Scheifele did not, thats why. Wheeler is a bad apple in that lockerroom.

Coaches are paid to decide who plays with whom. And are there to balance their offense. And Laine is not the most reliable defensively to start with.

 

[ZUKI]

He isn’t producing those numbers playing the the way he has the last 2 years. Should we put Perry on the first line because he scored 50 goals in the past?

sorry, my bad , you're right. He didn't get 20 goals out of his 56 and 29 games played last 2 seasons

 

[Captain Mountain]

Hockey is too fluid of a sport to propose this kimd of line by line comparisons.

So as I understand it, your argument against him being a part of one of the best lines in hockey is there is no way to determine which are the best lines in hockey?

Please elaborate if I'm misunderstanding.

 

[Kimota]

OK that is settled then, Danault for Mantha

 

[Mrb1p]

So as I understand it, your argument against him being a part of one of the best lines in hockey is there is no way to determine which are the best lines in hockey?

Please elaborate if I'm misunderstanding.

The argument to be made is that his line outproduces its counterparts at 5 on 5 but theres no ways to determine the counterparts at 5 on 5. Hockey is a fluid game played by a whole rotating roster of player, not by a single unit with replacement players.

 

[Mrb1p]

OK that is settled then, Danault for Mantha

Id grab Glendening and call it a day

 

[sampollock]

MurphysLaw74
@MurphysLaw74
Was talking to an NHL scout about my @BOSHockeyNow BHN+ piece on #NHLBruins F Anders Bjork below and he was wondering if maybe #GoHabsGo would look into reuniting Bjork with his former Notre Dame teammate Jake Evans? I would keep an eye on #mnwild #Yotes #Flames and #GoStars

 

[Captain Mountain]

The argument to be made is that his line outproduces its counterparts at 5 on 5 but theres no ways to determine the counterparts at 5 on 5. Hockey is a fluid game played by a whole rotating roster of player, not by a single unit with replacement players.

That doesn't really elaborate your position, it just sounds like your saying that lines can't be ranked.

 

[Mrb1p]

That doesn't really elaborate your position, it just sounds like your saying that lines can't be ranked.

Basically, one can evaluate the impact one singular line has on the ice but taking those performances and using that evaluation to determine that X or Y line is greater than A or B is iffy.

 

[Barriwhite]

Basically, one can evaluate the impact one singular line has on the ice but taking those performances and using that evaluation to determine that X or Y line is greater than A or B is iffy.

Iffy over a handful of games, but not over a couple seasons. Danault tilts the ice at 5-on-5. It’s undisputable.

 

[Captain Mountain]

Basically, one can evaluate the impact one singular line has on the ice but taking those performances and using that evaluation to determine that X or Y line is greater than A or B is iffy.

Every measure or evaluation is to some degree "iffy". There is plenty of data to effectively grade lines and it is very hard to say Tatar-Danault-Gallagher isn't one of the best ES lines right now.

 

[Vachon23]

MurphysLaw74
@MurphysLaw74
Was talking to an NHL scout about my @BOSHockeyNow BHN+ piece on #NHLBruins F Anders Bjork below and he was wondering if maybe #GoHabsGo would look into reuniting Bjork with his former Notre Dame teammate Jake Evans? I would keep an eye on #mnwild #Yotes #Flames and #GoStars

Cool that he played with Evans but we don’t need this guy. Where would he plays ?

 

[Scriptor]

Iffy over a handful of games, but not over a couple seasons. Danault tilts the ice at 5-on-5. It’s undisputable.

Translation of what he said is, "Whatever goes against what I'm claiming irremediably needs to be invalidated as unverifiable."

 

[jaffy27]

What is Mete's trade value? I'd rather Bergevin not trade him because of depth, but some youtuber is suggesting the Canucks acquiring him, as they have problems on defense. Maybe Mete could pick a page out of Hugues' playbook if it were to happen.

3rd round pick at best.....not worth it, keep him

 

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

OK that is settled then, Danault for Mantha

Yuck!

Keep that lazy floater away from Habs.
We Ave Drouin... one's enough!

 

[Habssince89]

When you look at our defence it actually has a good balance of skills including mobility, however that is still the least among them. Bringing in someone who is a bit more mobile, a bit more offensive minded to be in the mix as an option sounds great.

But I'm not giving up our 1st for Dunn. We are in a position of strength and this is about fine tuning. Patience. Sooner or later we will be able to help a team who is hurting because we might have someone to spare, etc.

 

[Aces on the road]

Man everybody on this board has short memories. Literally the games before Vancouver , people wanted to put Armia out for Perry. But hey , '' I blow Armia''

Armia is teams best winger

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Armia is teams best winger

yes totally a guy that can't make it to 30 points in a season is clearly better than Drouin Tatar Gallagher adn Toffoli.


You are absolutely right.