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is 4.75M * 7 fair for Dzingel?
is 4.75M * 7 fair for Dzingel?
I think that’s low. Tatar got $5.3 coming off a 21 and 26 goals season and Dzingel will have better stats then that, and Tatar signed 3 years ago.
LOL you beat me to it by a few minutes, probably should have refreshed the page before posting. But Tatar is probably one of the better comparisons. Maybe we should sign and trade Dzingel for a 1st, 2nd and 3rd
That’s just it - Dzingel I think gets you a 1st and a prospect or a pick.
Something like:
Ott: Washington 1st 2019, Washington 2nd 2020
Washington: Ryan Dzingel
Id rather trade Duchene and keep Dzingel for half the price
Keep stacking up picks and prospects & go all in on Alexis Lafrenière next year
Think his girfriend is a golfer from FloridaWhat a weird thing to assume. Maybe he hates Trump America. Maybe he has a hottie in Ottawa who won't leave. Maybe he likes the Kanata Centrum. Who friggin knows???
My thought is that Ceci, like Dzingle, will be too rich for this team.anybody here for keeping Ceci??
our right side has really stabilized and with JBD on the way, Ceci and Jaros being long term guys on that side you have the size, skating, decent offence and good compete and good attitudes. DeMelo also decent but with him being a FA I can’t see Ottawa paying him to stick around, so I think he’ll get traded next season and JBD takes that spot over with Jaros and Ceci cementing the two pairings.
I’m into keeping Ceci just because he’s a pretty good Dman and with Jaros it stabilizes that entire right side for the next 5-7 years, which would be a solid organizational move.
Give me three other players currently making that and I will tell youis 4.75M * 7 fair for Dzingel?
Give me three other players currently making that and I will tell you
Left Wing | Centre | Right Wing |
---|---|---|
Dzingel, Ryan $5,500,000 | Duchene, Matt $8,500,000 | Batherson, Drake $736,666 |
Tkachuk, Brady $925,000 | White, Colin $2,000,000 | Stone, Mark $8,500,000 |
Formenton, Alex $753,333 | Pageau, Jean-Gabriel $3,100,000 | Ryan, Bobby $7,250,000 |
Paul, Nicholas $900,000 | Chlapik, Filip $728,333 | Balcers, Rūdolfs $759,167 |
Left Defense | Right Defense | Goaltender |
---|---|---|
Chabot, Thomas $863,333 | DeMelo, Dylan $900,000 | Anderson, Craig $4,750,000 |
Wolanin, Christian $1,500,000 | Jaros, Christian $755,000 | Nilsson, Anders $2,250,000 |
Lajoie, Maxime $710,000 | Harpur, Ben $725,000 | |
Borowiecki, Mark $1,200,000 |
Not a great starting point at all if you are considering what his market value would be around the league. Offer fair value, quit the bull crap or move along so you can devote your time to getting a realistic return. No time for low ball offers. We all know he will get more than 8 mill per season!
I think that’s low. Tatar got $5.3 coming off a 21 and 26 goals season and Dzingel will have better stats then that, and Tatar signed 3 years ago.
Would you still give him this lets just say if Stone and Duchene are gone?Trochek, Nyquist McDonagh
Great to look at all the numbers laid out like this. Just looking at the Dzingel number maybe its me but I think it is a bit high for him. Makes me a little nervous. Would like to see him in the high 3's but doubt that will happen with maybe with an extra 1M in incentive based rewards.Here's what what I would do if I could sign Stone and Duchene around 8.5 per.
I'd even keep Dzingel. But I won't need Ceci and Tierney going forward as I got depth coming and they will get more costly so I'm trading them. On RD, I have Jaros and DeMelo who are both #4-6 Ds (and Ceci should be a #4), so it makes him expendable. Plus I have JBD coming in not too long, but in the meanwhile I will need an established RD who's specialty is defensive play (like a prime Methot on RD). Ceci is not that guy because he was never supposed to be a "shutdown" D-man. Tierney is not really needed going forward too as I want to keep Pageau in the cards for longer, and I have Chlapik, Brown, Norris still not graduated. Plus, I kept Duchene and I have White breaking out. I'm going to be very fine at center. Conclusion, I'm using Tierney and Ceci as the pieces to get me a #3 D-man
I'm also trading Boedker and Zack Smith for pick(s), with some salary retained to make it work in Smith's case. I'm still keeping Ryan around 1 more year, as some kind of insurance policy who takes off some pressure on the younger forwards. Even if expensive, I'm way way under the cap and he's a great skilled forward stop-gap.
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Left Wing Centre Right Wing
Dzingel, Ryan
$5,500,000
Duchene, Matt
$8,500,000
Batherson, Drake
$736,666
Tkachuk, Brady
$925,000
White, Colin
$2,000,000
Stone, Mark
$8,500,000
Formenton, Alex
$753,333
Pageau, Jean-Gabriel
$3,100,000
Ryan, Bobby
$7,250,000
Paul, Nicholas
$900,000
Chlapik, Filip
$728,333
Balcers, Rūdolfs
$759,167
[TBODY] [/TBODY]I have Tierney, Ceci, Boedker and Smith as trade chips and all I need is a solid Top-4 D-man (DeMelo then moves on the 3rd pairing instead of Harpur). With a new coaching staff, that team could be competitive and even make the playoffs. All those forward lines could produce offense and with a Methot-type to play with Chabot, I think that defense could be solid.[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Left Defense Right Defense Goaltender
Chabot, Thomas
$863,333
DeMelo, Dylan
$900,000
Anderson, Craig
$4,750,000
Wolanin, Christian
$1,500,000
Jaros, Christian
$755,000
Nilsson, Anders
$2,250,000
Lajoie, Maxime
$710,000
Harpur, Ben
$725,000
Borowiecki, Mark
$1,200,000
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Or maybe Karlsson signs as a UFA (well it's a dream but I think it's realistic if new ownership)
If Duchene and Stone both sign, it's probably because they know a sale will happen in the near future and the move to a new arena downtown will be on its way.
8 x 8 is not a fair offer? Do you know that in 2019-20, only 22 forwards are to have a cap hit over 8.0 M$ per year? Logan Couture just got 8 x 8 recent;y and I think it's right in the ballpark for Duchene.
Great to look at all the numbers laid out like this. Just looking at the Dzingel number maybe its me but I think it is a bit high for him. Makes me a little nervous. Would like to see him in the high 3's but doubt that will happen with maybe with an extra 1M in incentive based rewards.
Duchene probably stays more effective longer than stone due to his skating imoDuchene is going to be 29 next year while the team is still rebuilding. By the time the team is competitive he’ll be out of his prime, trading him now could be a good option than signing him for eight years.
We’ll see what Dorion does, but I wouldn’t be opposed to clearing out all useless contracts and extending Duchene. The team needs to be smart with this and not offer contracts to scrubs like Ceci.
Duchene probably stays more effective longer than stone due to his skating imo
I would say the opposite since Stone doesnt rely on his skating while Duchene does. Duchene will slow down in his 30s and that will affect him way more than Stone when he slows down.Duchene probably stays more effective longer than stone due to his skating imo
is 4.75M * 7 fair for Dzingel?