Rumor: Trade Rumors/Proposals 2018-2019 (Part 5)

[L'Aveuglette]

Id rather trade Duchene and keep Dzingel for half the price

Keep stacking up picks and prospects & go all in on Alexis Lafrenière next year

And then when we inevitably end up picking out of the top 10 we go back to square one.

Best to keep the #1C we traded the farm for and hope our goaltending and defense is atrocious enough to get us that bottom-5 finish.

 

[otown]

Bad take. And HNIC crew disagreed when they broke the news. Said it was a fair offer. Don't forget that Duchene got cold for significant stretches of the past few seasons.

Kypreos said it was a fair offer which doesn't mean much. 8 mill is a lowball offer. You can see it as a starting point in the process or Duchene's camp could view it as being unrealistic. My point is that the negotiation process has to be on fast forward so you can work on contingency plans in case Duchene or Stone decide to move on.
Pierre has to be working both sides.
Paving the way for possible trades if it comes to this.......hopefully not!

 

[L'Aveuglette]

Dzingel might actually be the first goal scorer I feel is expendable enough to get us that desperately needed top-4 D. Could definitely see him move to St-Louis. Kid's done us a big one by having what will be a 30-35 goal season when we need the help on defense or perhaps a decent 1st round pick.

In reality though, we'll probably re-sign him at $6M and trade one of Stone or Duchene and be mediocre forever.

 

[Liver King]

I wouldn't pay Duchene more than 8 mil

 

[otown]

I wouldn't pay Duchene more than 8 mil

Lots of teams would pay at least 8 million and Ottawa better realize it.
This is definitely a "TSN turning point" !

 

[InTkachukWeTrust]

What would be Mcdavid's value??

 

[Xspyrit]

Kypreos said it was a fair offer which doesn't mean much. 8 mill is a lowball offer. You can see it as a starting point in the process or Duchene's camp could view it as being unrealistic. My point is that the negotiation process has to be on fast forward so you can work on contingency plans in case Duchene or Stone decide to move on.
Pierre has to be working both sides.
Paving the way for possible trades if it comes to this.......hopefully not!

Dear Lord, have you read what people have said about your initial statement? You might be the only person in the world that thinks that 8.0 x 8 years for Duchene is a "lowball" offer...

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I wouldn't pay Duchene more than 8 mil

Hey Eugene

 

[otown]

Dear Lord, have you read what people have said about your initial statement? You might be the only person in the world that thinks that 8.0 x 8 years for Duchene is a "lowball" offer

I stand by it! "Lowball" may have been an exaggeration but there is no doubt that he will get more than 8 mill per, based on his performance this season and the inflated contracts owners are dispensing. Have to agree to disagree.

 

[Cloud]

Yes but Ottawa's in no position to be "inflating salaries" as you put it. 8x8 is a fair offer for Duchene from this org and I think most agree.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Yes but Ottawa's in no position to be "inflating salaries" as you put it. 8x8 is a fair offer for Duchene from this org and I think most agree.

It's a starting point. He'll get more than that.

 

[otown]

Agree that for a budget team they have started to open the wallet.
My fear is that Duchene will follow the money elsewhere,because other teams are in a position to offer more $$.
As I have stated before, PD better be prepared for this scenario.

 

[Tuna99]

Yes but Ottawa's in no position to be "inflating salaries" as you put it. 8x8 is a fair offer for Duchene from this org and I think most agree.

$100 000 is fair to play NHL hockey, $8 million is also fair.

In the market place Duch gets minimum $9 million and probably closer to $10 million

 

[Cloud]

$100 000 is fair to play NHL hockey, $8 million is also fair.

In the market place Duch gets minimum $9 million and probably closer to $10 million

Yeah probably, some team desperate or rich enough could offer that...but from what I've been reading here most don't seem prepared to offer that amount of cash. As much as I like Matt...if he's looking for 9-10 then trade away.

 

[branch]

[MOD] With Lehner looking lights out I would be interested to know if PD wanted to bring him back. Chances are probably not since this guy couldn't deal himself out of a wet paper bag.

 

[branch]

What a weird thing to assume. Maybe he hates Trump America. Maybe he has a hottie in Ottawa who won't leave. Maybe he likes the Kanata Centrum. Who friggin knows???

His GF is a pro golfer in the south. He's 100% not playing here next year.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

I wouldn't pay Duchene more than 8 mil

Same. 9 for stone. 8 for Duchene.

 

[Sens]

8x8 is only fair if 30-40 million of that is paid as bonus money in years 1-3 along with a nmc

 

[Tuna99]

If the fanbase ain’t willing to go above $8 million for Duchene or $9 million for Stone - WHY NOT?

This fanbase has been robbed of talent and Alfie by shortchanging the elite players the team has had and horrible cap management by giving contracts to overevaluated talent the organization fell in love with like Weircoche, Cowen, Greening.

We have 2 legitimate stars in Ottawa but people want Poo-Jeans Melnyck to save an extra million for his pocket after he’s cheaped out on every single thing the franchise has ever done.

This Fan base isn’t NHL ready, don’t believe or don’t want to compete in a big boys market place. The small town mentality that Muckler said has to disappear for the team to win is back.

Whatever swagger is, the Ottawa Senators fans don’t have it.

 

[pzeeman]

Lots of teams would pay at least 8 million and Ottawa better realize it.
This is definitely a "TSN turning point" !

So you’re saying he’ll go to free agency where he’ll likely be offered $63M? Sounds hopeless. How much are the Senators offering?

 

[OmniSens]

I think Stone and Duchene will get the same term/$.

 

[dumbdick]

If the fanbase ain’t willing to go above $8 million for Duchene or $9 million for Stone - WHY NOT?

This fanbase has been robbed of talent and Alfie by shortchanging the elite players the team has had and horrible cap management by giving contracts to overevaluated talent the organization fell in love with like Weircoche, Cowen, Greening.

We have 2 legitimate stars in Ottawa but people want Poo-Jeans Melnyck to save an extra million for his pocket after he’s cheaped out on every single thing the franchise has ever done.

This Fan base isn’t NHL ready, don’t believe or don’t want to compete in a big boys market place. The small town mentality that Muckler said has to disappear for the team to win is back.

Whatever swagger is, the Ottawa Senators fans don’t have it.

I guess the rest of us are just operating in reality.

 

[dumbdick]

As others have pointed out he's statistically speaking pretty close to $6m turris. He's undeniably better. But then, statistically speaking, $8m is also more than $6m.

 

[DJB]

Why do we care how much their cap hit is? Uncle Eugene will never spend to the cap anyways

 

[danielpalfredsson]

[MOD] With Lehner looking lights out I would be interested to know if PD wanted to bring him back. Chances are probably not since this guy couldn't deal himself out of a wet paper bag.

He is going to get a big payday.

I assume the Islanders keep him on something like a 4 year 5.5M type contract.

Speaking of the Islanders, they are now apparently buyers. Their previous management was after Duchene.