Nylanderthal
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I think both Roy and gauthier make this an overpayment but I think one of the two with a small add on our end makes sense value wise.Nylander won't get you either of these packages imo.
I think both Roy and gauthier make this an overpayment but I think one of the two with a small add on our end makes sense value wise.Nylander won't get you either of these packages imo.
That’d be a tough deal to sell, but I get and dig the idea.If Lou came knocking on the door for Willy I’d be willing to listen to a deal centering around Noah Dobson and a top 10 protected 1st.
Dobson is going to be an elite #1RHD imo but he’s only 18 so we might be able to scoop him while he’s still not there yet. I predict after the WJC he will just not be available anymore. I would have taken him as high as #3 in this past draft.
We’d miss Willy sure but we have lots of young winger depth and top line RH dmen don’t grow on trees.
If Nylander is traded, and let's hope things don't go that way, why does anyone assume he's returning a player of equal stature? A player of equal stature will be entitled to (and probably already earning) similar money to Nylander. That kind of defeats the point of moving Nylander.
The only way I can anticipate getting a player with equal talent as Nylander is acquiring a recently drafted player who still has a few years to burn on his ELC. That would be tough as teams tend to love these guys: they're young and cheap and full of upside.
A trade of Nylander seems likely to be for a "good" current NHL asset and many future assets.
I think the Leafs would want someone who is closer to making the NHL. If they think Dobson was going to enter the NHL next year then sure.If Lou came knocking on the door for Willy I’d be willing to listen to a deal centering around Noah Dobson and a top 10 protected 1st.
Dobson is going to be an elite #1RHD imo but he’s only 18 so we might be able to scoop him while he’s still not there yet. I predict after the WJC he will just not be available anymore. I would have taken him as high as #3 in this past draft.
We’d miss Willy sure but we have lots of young winger depth and top line RH dmen don’t grow on trees.
Maybe we can use Nylander to get some goalie support.
William Nylander to Carolina for Justin Faulk and Curtis McElhinney.
Who says now?
If Lou came knocking on the door for Willy I’d be willing to listen to a deal centering around Noah Dobson and a top 10 protected 1st.
Dobson is going to be an elite #1RHD imo but he’s only 18 so we might be able to scoop him while he’s still not there yet. I predict after the WJC he will just not be available anymore. I would have taken him as high as #3 in this past draft.
We’d miss Willy sure but we have lots of young winger depth and top line RH dmen don’t grow on trees.
If Lou came knocking on the door for Willy I’d be willing to listen to a deal centering around Noah Dobson and a top 10 protected 1st.
Dobson is going to be an elite #1RHD imo but he’s only 18 so we might be able to scoop him while he’s still not there yet. I predict after the WJC he will just not be available anymore. I would have taken him as high as #3 in this past draft.
We’d miss Willy sure but we have lots of young winger depth and top line RH dmen don’t grow on trees.
Because otherwise it makes zero sense to trade him. Moving him for a vet or package of lesser assets would be stupid.If Nylander is traded, and let's hope things don't go that way, why does anyone assume he's returning a player of equal stature? A player of equal stature will be entitled to (and probably already earning) similar money to Nylander. That kind of defeats the point of moving Nylander.
The only way I can anticipate getting a player with equal talent as Nylander is acquiring a recently drafted player who still has a few years to burn on his ELC. That would be tough as teams tend to love these guys: they're young and cheap and full of upside.
A trade of Nylander seems likely to be for a "good" current NHL asset and many future assets.
Because otherwise it makes zero sense to trade him. Moving him for a vet or package of lesser assets would be stupid.
Would fully agree that in the current situation it would make finding a trade partner difficult, and why i doubt the Leafs ever seriously consider trading him
Agreed. Hard to come out on top of a Nylander trade because he's just that good despite what people seem to think his problems are.
Like I said earlier, it would have to be a Jones type return for the Leafs to even consider it and those kind of trades are fairly rare as it is.
Super early but who might be some rental top 4 d available at the deadline and what might one cost? Assuming Leafs might not find that permanent solution. They may have to go the rental route for the playoff run.
Super early but who might be some rental top 4 d available at the deadline and what might one cost? Assuming Leafs might not find that permanent solution. They may have to go the rental route for the playoff run.
I think the Leafs would want someone who is closer to making the NHL. If they think Dobson was going to enter the NHL next year then sure.
I'm assuming they'd be looking at guys like Parayko, Pesce or Trouba. That sort of age group that are young but established players. I thought a Hamilton swap might have worked but Carolina jumped on that.
Maybe if Vancouver is bad enough Tanev is back on the market. Not sure of the price but could be someone to look out for. Leafs apparently had interest over the past year or two. I know some people don't want him at all but he's pretty good and the value could make sense. Not a rental.
Another player that could be out there would be Jared Spurgeon, who apparently was available for the right price this summer. Won't be cheap but he would be a great addition. His contract has another year on it, so it wouldn't be a pure rental.
A super buy low option but one that could make sense and fit a need if there is salary retention would be Brendan Smith of the Rangers. Not really a great target though but I think he's better than he's shown there.
As for rentals, maybe someone like Jan Rutta from the Hawks. Pending UFA and Chicago will probably be outside looking in.
It would have to be for more. Nylander is better than Drouin ever was.If it comes to the point of trading Nylander, I would make him sit out until we get a return similar to what Tampa got for Drouin, if not more.
Hughes/Juolevi/Bouchard are the only ones that got that billIt would have to be for more. Nylander is better than Drouin ever was.
All the Leafs need to do is find a GM as dumb as Bergevin who also has a blue chip defensive prospect.
It was more to do with the 20-25 age group but yeah, agree for the most part.Specifically on the Trouba point, he cannot be extended until after Jan 1st. Leafs wouldn't take the risk of trading Nylander for Trouba who has only two years of control.....or if they did it would be very ballsy to say the least. Plus I doubt the Jets trade Trouba this season for Nylander, Nylander fills no need on the Jets he would be more of what they have now very powerful deep forward group......he could eventually maybe replace Little at 2C. But for this year Trouba plays a much bigger role on the Jets then a Nylander would. Only way I see the Jets considering that deal this season is if they believe they wouldn't get any where near a Nylander value this summer and are more concerned with long term value then going all in this year (very debatable point). Plus Jets wouldn't look at Nylander unless they knew his real contract demands and were comfortable with them.........Chevy would laugh at 8 million demand. Nylander is worth 6.5 million x 7 years not a dime more.
Not sure, but I likely wouldn't be interested in a rental.
I'd be going for a player with term. I don't think we can afford to spend assets on a D to then watch him and possibly Gardiner walk next summer.