10.5 for an rfa is gross overpaymentWell $10.5 was palatable $300k I guess in the end won’t kill us. Welcome back marner!!
How are we going to resign andersen and Reilly. We're ****ed. Thx dubas
I can live with it. We overpaid a few players but it's okay if we don't have a boat anchor like a Marleau or a Lucic on the roster.
Lets get the season started.
Few thoughts:
- I'm glad he's signed.
- It will take time for my opinion of him to recover, as it will with Bill.
- Dubas might have got them all signed but all 3 core rfa negotiations imo are a failure on his part. He will learn, but it was naive to think the Billy deal was all that was necessary for him to learn.
- These team unfriendly deals basically give us this year to compete and then put us at the mercy of the cap as to what kind of team we can ice next year onwards.
- One of the big four might need to be traded to fix this
10.5 for an rfa is gross overpayment
Nylander contract - steal
Matthews contract - fair
Marner contract - ugly
10.5 for an rfa is gross overpayment
Why Dubas has shown he will overpay without a first round win. Why win in the playoffs when you only get paid for the regular season and they make the same for less work losing early.Yikes. Time to earn that money kids, maybe win at least 1 round before you start making demands for your next one
Nylander contract - fairNylander contract - steal
Matthews contract - fair
Marner contract - ugly
To be very fair, I do see Marner's point.
Crosby and Malkin signed for the same after ELC.
Getzlaf and Perry signed for the same after ELC.
Toews and Kane signed for the same after ELC.
Why would Marner agree to sign for less than Matthews?
But to be clear, I don't like Marner's contract, nor do I like Matthews contract. I like Nylander's contract though. 6.9 mill for a player of his caliber his fantastic.
The thing to remember, a year ago we thought this upcoming season would be a very difficult one for us as we had a severe cap crunch that would force us to part way with some talent. Instead, we look stronger than ever. Things can change quickly.Few thoughts:
- I'm glad he's signed.
- It will take time for my opinion of him to recover, as it will with Bill.
- Dubas might have got them all signed but all 3 core rfa negotiations imo are a failure on his part. He will learn, but it was naive to think the Billy deal was all that was necessary for him to learn.
- These team unfriendly deals basically give us this year to compete and then put us at the mercy of the cap as to what kind of team we can ice next year onwards.
- One of the big four might need to be traded to fix this
Actually, you are mistaken. You are thinking of their third contracts. I think all of them actually got 5 years coming off their ELC. At least Crosby, Toews/Kane, and Getzlaf did.However, those six guys all got 8 years, aside from Crosby who got 12.
Actually, you are mistaken. You are thinking of their third contracts. I think all of them actually got 5 years coming off their ELC. At least Crosby, Toews/Kane, and Getzlaf did.
To put it into perspective, I made the following estimate for the cap hit given different terms (This is calculated by assuming Marner's annual salaries from year 1 to year 6 are 8.4, 8.5, 9, 10.5, 11.5, 12.5, with a 2% inflation rate):
6 yr: 10.893
5 yr: 10.311
4 yr: 9.777
3 yr: 8.811
2 yr: 8.535
If you have to choose between these contracts, which would you choose? For me, the longer the better, as long as they can fit him into this year cap. And I'm just glad it is not a 3 year contract for I don't want to go over all these months of negotiations again.
Note that a direct comparison with Matthews' 5-year contract would be 1.3 million less, which looks more reasonable than comparing a 6 year to a 5 year contract (0.7 million less).
Awesome, I'm happy about this deal.
I've been critical of Mitch during this process, but it's all water under the bridge now.
The leafs overpaid their stars by around 4 million in total and I can live with that.. can't wait for opening night!!
GLG
I don't really like this deal but I don't get a say in it.I’m not defending the deal as a good deal from the get go. There’s always THAT GUY who thinks the sky is falling.
I agree he starting off overpaid, but the last couple years will look like a bargain. By that time Mitch should be a top 5 winger and top 15 player while his cap hit will probably be 20-25th highest.
Our core and quality complimentary players are signed for the next 4+ years. Cap will spike in 2 years with gambling revenues and Seattle expansion. Take a deep breathe bro.