Nithoniniel
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It's just to go back and read the thread if you want to understand what was discussed.What does the Rookie season have anything to do with the players they are today?
It's just to go back and read the thread if you want to understand what was discussed.What does the Rookie season have anything to do with the players they are today?
This! Just want others to se it incase it was missed in this long arse thread.Nylander was worth about $6.7M for 6 years, Matthews maybe $11M for 5 years, and Marner $9.5M for 6 years. That's $0.3M, $0.6M, and $1.3M overpayments respectively, and a total of $2.2M. Most teams in the league has that kind of overpayment in one, very replaceable player. Leafs have that in Ceci this season. Overpaying your star players is the least of all management mistakes. It's clear that Dubas hasn't been great in these situations though, grading in below average so far.
I'm happy Marner will be here for 5-6 years or so, barring surprising developments. It's hard viewing him the same after this negotiation though. It's been ugly.
Curious why do you say it was needlessly fractured.Yup. I think the former was driven by fear of a crippling offer sheet, and the latter was done to repair a relationship that was needlessly fractured. But it's hard to argue that it's not been a blemish on management so far. My point was more that it's a small one compared to what other GMs are up to.
It's just to go back and read the thread if you want to understand what was discussed.
It does. All ELC years are taken into account, weighed by recency. But there's a reason the biggest correlation with contract numbers is PPG across the full ELC, and not point totals or last season totals.I keep seeing people using full ELC years to justify their opinion, and I've never understood it. ELC year 3 should hold a lot more weight than ELC year 2, which both hold more weight than ELC year 1... just my opinion.
I don't think Marner has a cause for the perceived slights that have been reported. It seems his camp went into negotiations thinking that he's not been treated the way he deserves.Curious why do you say it was needlessly fractured.
Agreed on Matthews, i think it was fear based with some worry of an offer sheet and the shakes from Nylander's situation.
It does. All ELC years are taken into account, weighed by recency. But there's a reason the biggest correlation with contract numbers is PPG across the full ELC, and not point totals or last season totals.
I guess I don't understand the slights or think the comments are thatI don't think Marner has a cause for the perceived slights that have been reported. It seems his camp went into negotiations thinking that he's not been treated the way he deserves.
So the new NHL is having a few players making nearly 40-50% of the cap while 6 or so players are making 10-15 times less money. Kind of reminds me of the OHL where lineups are made up of a few blue chip prospects and a bunch of scrubs.
This! Just want others to se it incase it was missed in this long arse thread.
Man sitter was a good player!!
Side note: it’s absolutely insane how we only have 2 100 point scorers in franchise history.
Nylander contract - fair
Matthews contract - bad
Marner contract - terrible
But on the plus side we have 3 elite superstars locked up for 5+ years
Do you know when (date) he gets that 15.3M SB?
Side note: it’s absolutely insane how we only have 2 100 point scorers in franchise history.
Correction 2 elite super stars
Matthews and Marner
Nylander needs to show he can produce at an elite level in NHL no evidence of it thus far especially without playing on Matthews’ wing
Let’s hope more Gilmour than Leeman.