Confirmed Trade: [TOR/COL] Tyson Barrie (@50%) , A. Kerfoot, '20 6th for Nazem Kadri, C. Rosen, '20 3rd - Pt.3

[ToDavid]

Well the Matthews/Nylander contracts are both pretty damn bad, are Leaf fans actually happy with the work Dubas has done so far?

If overpaying your very young star players is the worst thing you’ve done when other teams are handing out terrible contracts to old, depth UFAs then you have a pretty good reason to be happy.

 

[Foppberg]

If overpaying your very young star players is the worst thing you’ve done when other teams are handing out terrible contracts to old, depth UFAs then you have a pretty good reason to be happy.

sure they're signed, but Nylander doesn't seem like the player he was going to be, only gets points attached to Matthews hip. And AM locked up at what he is for only 5 years is crazy. Other players definitely like him though, reset the RFA market.

 

[Liferleafer]

sure they're signed, but Nylander doesn't seem like the player he was going to be, only gets points attached to Matthews hip. And AM locked up at what he is for only 5 years is crazy. Other players definitely like him though, reset the RFA market.

Ya, if only we could have 9 million dollar Jeff Skinner and his whopping 63 point career high season over 6.96 million dollar back to back 61 point seasons Nylander.

Or maybe Hayes and his career high 49 points at 7.14 was the way to go?

Nah...gotta be Brock 53 point Nelson at 6 Million....

No wait!! It's 7 million dollar Anders Lee....

This bullshit that a guy signing for under 7 million in today's NHL after posting back to back 61 point seasons as a 21-22 year old is getting laughable. I said it way back when Phaneuf signed his big contract and everyone was getting on the Leafs, that as the 1st big signing post new CBA, it would be the new trend....and it was. People will understand that Nylander's deal will be right in the sweet spot once other RFAs start signing.

 

[smitty10]

Well the Matthews/Nylander contracts are both pretty damn bad, are Leaf fans actually happy with the work Dubas has done so far?

Yes.

The contracts are higher than players who signed 2-3 years ago, but they're not far off of what players of their caliber get.

$6.9m for Nylander is a fine contract. With the cap going up, he's right around the players that he is comparable to. The guy is 22 and has two 60+ point seasons already. He had a bad year last year, but the circumstances (although self inflicted) were not ideal.

$11.5m for Matthews is what it is. You have to pay your franchise players. People thought he would get $12.5-13m for 7 years. The Leafs have too many high end players that they don't want to lose, so they elected to sign him for less term and less dollar value. Let's see what Point, Rantanen, Laine, etc. get this summer. This contract is just the third one of the young stars signed. Each year their asking price goes up.

 

[Torontoborn]

sure they're signed, but Nylander doesn't seem like the player he was going to be, only gets points attached to Matthews hip. And AM locked up at what he is for only 5 years is crazy. Other players definitely like him though, reset the RFA market.

Nylander had an off year which believe it or not happens to players in the NHL.

 

[John Eichel da GOAT]

Well why doesn’t Toronto worry about what is going to happen in 2 or 3 years. Signing talented hockey players to contracts is a good problem to have.

Dubas is just playing nhl 19 out there not thinking about the future. GM of the year though!

 

[shortfuze]

Dubas is just playing nhl 19 out there not thinking about the future. GM of the year though!

if thats the way you want to look at it, go ahead. the only 1 he has left to sign is Marner and he has the money to do it. seems like youre annoyed that he has got everyone signed and the only real asset he gave up was a 1st round pick.

 

[Mighty Makar]

I honestly don’t think $6.9M is bad for Nylander. He definitely had a bad year, it happens. I’m sure he can bounce back and put up some good numbers.

 

[TheDoldrums]

Kadri didnt cost the Leafs games. Truth is their scoring forwards didnt step up when they were needed the most.

Kadri's been suspended for half the Leafs playoff games over the past two years. How did that not cost them games? If he's that unimpactful, why would any team trade for him?

It was time to move on for both parties because he absolutely hurt his team over the past two playoffs with his reckless behaviour.

 

[Liferleafer]

I honestly don’t think $6.9M is bad for Nylander. He definitely had a bad year, it happens. I’m sure he can bounce back and put up some good numbers.

Everything early on this season is set up for him to thrive, Dubas took Babcock's favorite toy away (Marleau)...his other favorite toy is IR to start the year (Hyman). So Nylander will get top 6 time right from the get go and will get PP time as well.

 

[TheDoldrums]

eas·i·ly
adverb

1. without difficulty or effort.
   "he climbed the mountain easily"

LOL. Now they're signing Pietrangelo?!

Having $39M tied up between 4 players seems wise ($49M between 5 assuming Marner signs for $10M)...

Also who is going to tend net in 2 years? Andersen likely isnt going to take $5M per again. Then how do you re-sign Reilly in 3 years? Lets assume they re-sign Marner for $10M for 5 years. In 2 years sign Andersen for $7M per. Re-sign Reilly for $7M per, you're looking at 22-23:

Matthews $11.634
Tavares $11
Nylander $6.962
Marner $10
Reilly $7
Andersen $7
Pietrangelo $9 or Barrie $8

That is $62.6 tied up between 7 players. At what point do Leafs fans realize this isn't possible or do we keep pumping Dubas's tires just for fun?

Honestly I'm just terrified of 2025. At that point my calculations will have them at $69 million tied up between just 2 and a half men. Dubas is really gonna have to optimize his excel charts to get us out of this quandry!

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

Are people really complaining about nylanders contract.

His usage rate is so low. Has never eclipsed 17 mins of ice time in a season. He plays 2nd pp time as well.

Look at what William does at worlds on back to back years he has dominated with proper usage.

 

[Hasbro]

Tkachuk
Kassian
Lucic
Nurse

Now how about a list of popes?

 

[CherryToke]

This is starting to look like a terrible trade for the Leafs. Barrie is not a good fit on an already elite offensive team that didn't need him and losing Kadri left a crater at center.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Ya, if only we could have 9 million dollar Jeff Skinner and his whopping 63 point career high season over 6.96 million dollar back to back 61 point seasons Nylander.

Or maybe Hayes and his career high 49 points at 7.14 was the way to go?

Nah...gotta be Brock 53 point Nelson at 6 Million....

No wait!! It's 7 million dollar Anders Lee....

This bull**** that a guy signing for under 7 million in today's NHL after posting back to back 61 point seasons as a 21-22 year old is getting laughable. I said it way back when Phaneuf signed his big contract and everyone was getting on the Leafs, that as the 1st big signing post new CBA, it would be the new trend....and it was. People will understand that Nylander's deal will be right in the sweet spot once other RFAs start signing.

But one could say that this is a self-fulfilling prophecy. Since Nylander's signing set the market, it will naturally be 'in the sweet spot' eventually.

 

[typicalsavage]

This is starting to look like a terrible trade for the Leafs. Barrie is not a good fit on an already elite offensive team that didn't need him and losing Kadri left a crater at center.

Kerfoot has been excellent. They can always trade Barrie and get significant assets for him. But I agree, this was a stupid trade by Dubas. They didn't need Barrie, he's a luxury to the Leafs. They need a Adam Larsson or Josh Manson type d badly.

 

[GIN ANTONIC]

Kerfoot has been excellent. They can always trade Barrie and get significant assets for him. But I agree, this was a stupid trade by Dubas. They didn't need Barrie, he's a luxury to the Leafs. They need a Adam Larsson or Josh Manson type d badly.

Unless they are miles out of the playoff picture the leafs aren’t trading Barrie and if the Leafs are miles out of the playoff picture by the deadline they’ve got some other serious issues

 

[Langdon Alger]

Kerfoot has been excellent. They can always trade Barrie and get significant assets for him. But I agree, this was a stupid trade by Dubas. They didn't need Barrie, he's a luxury to the Leafs. They need a Adam Larsson or Josh Manson type d badly.

Maybe they can trade Nylander for that type of defenceman.

 

[grapes55]

Maybe they can trade Nylander for that type of defenceman.

I would rather not

 

[Weast]

If the Leafs can get a stay-at-home guy to cover Barrie, and let Tyson do his thing, then he will tear the East apart. Whose he playing with now?

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Kerfoot has been excellent. They can always trade Barrie and get significant assets for him. But I agree, this was a stupid trade by Dubas. They didn't need Barrie, he's a luxury to the Leafs. They need a Adam Larsson or Josh Manson type d badly.

This is likely the main reason Dubas went with the Flames offer over the Avs offer originally, That and Leafs cant afford to sign Barrie next year where they could afford to resign Brodie and Jankowski. Pitty Kadri nixed the trade

 

[Aavvaa]

If the Leafs can get a stay-at-home guy to cover Barrie, and let Tyson do his thing, then he will tear the East apart. Whose he playing with now?

Muzzin

 

[CraigsList]

11 games (13.4%) into the season = sky is falling.

 

[Langdon Alger]

If the Leafs can get a stay-at-home guy to cover Barrie, and let Tyson do his thing, then he will tear the East apart. Whose he playing with now?

I believe he’s paired with Muzzin.

 

[Namikaze Minato]

This is starting to look like a terrible trade for the Leafs. Barrie is not a good fit on an already elite offensive team that didn't need him and losing Kadri left a crater at center.

Kerfoot has 2 more points in 2 more games than Kadri this season, how is there a crater at center?

Kerfoot is a much, much better 3c than Kadri. Kadri is a better 2c than Alex. Neither are a 2c on the leafs without injuries and kerfoot has looked admiral filling in.

You're also exaggerating about Barrie, he has been a step up on Gardiner and he isn't even in his normal comfort zone with his teammates yet.

The team is not firing on all cylinders, this trade is a very far cry from the reason for that.

Great trade for both teams then and now.