MasterDecoy
Who took my beer?
No team that I can think of have ever actually tanked.
****sburgh. Lemieux.
No team that I can think of have ever actually tanked.
It's not tanking if you just plain out suck.
Would definitely be put up or shut up time for Eller in terms of offence.
Would be important to know how many ribs are cracked/broken? Hopefully some info filters through.
meh. as it is now, 3rd line C or 2nd line C, he wouldnt play with much better wingers.
I think that's a point many people either can't see or just plain ignore. The Habs didn't "tank" last season, they were a very bad team. I don't see it being much different with their current roster.
The Habs were going to draft high up no matter what because they sucked, but the Cammalleri, Kostitsyn and Gill trades were effectively tanking - giving up on this season to stock up on future draft picks.
Except for extreme cases (IE; Lemieux), that's what tanking usually is - an already bad team ensuring they will stay bad by trading for the future.
I still don't call that tanking. It's asset mangement, you have UFA's that probably won't be back so you trade them for picks/prospects if ytou are out of contention. The Cammalleri trade was unrelated, he was moved because the relationship between him and the team was terrible and he was a distraction.
True tanking is on a whole different level(see Pittsburgh in 83-84 to get Lemieux).
True, over the top tanking is rare though, usually teams accused of tanking are awful to begin with.
And the Cammalleri trade was caused by other reasons but that was the moment the team effectively lost any hope to compete, and the benefits of the trade - a pick, a prospect and additional cap space, were with the future in mind. Sure Bourque was a short term desperate attempt to increase "toughness" by making the average team size slightly bigger or whatever, but I never bought that he was the sole centrepiece of the trade as much as it was that nobody was eating Cammalleri's cap without the Habs taking something back.
No team that I can think of have ever actually tanked.
Tomas Plekanec is our best forward, and has never missed more than 5 regular season NHL games in a single season. I hope he's not out for too long, and that he heals up quickly.
Any update on Pleks?
If he misses any gametime, the habs will be a better team. If there is a season.
Its not a joke but a fact...
Not a broken rib apparently.
David Pagnotta @TheFourthPeriod
Update on Plekanec's health: He did not break any ribs, but did have muscle pain in his rib cage, thus left last night's game early.
Is that good or bad luck? Keeps Gally up with the big club and we draft high.
It wouldn't be a Plekanec thread without PatofQC bashing him and saying he makes the team worse.
Aubut forcing Bergeron to play Sergei Mylnikov was definitively tanking, too. People wanted to see the guy play because he was Russian, but he couldn't stop a bus.
If everyone's wish comes true, 2C could play with Galchenyuk and Gionta. Huge difference if you ask me
Cammalleri wasn't scoring, Bourque was struggling in Calgary, often deals like that benefit both teams. Neither player really played to expectations on their new teams...Cammy scored a few goals late but Calgary was already out of it.
At the end of the day Bourque had better numbers in Calgary than Cammy in Montreal so I do that deal again any day of the week, we just need a coach to light a fire under him and linemates that can get him the puck.