Speculation: There is something going on between Toronto - Carolina (MOD NOTE IN OP)

[Colt55]

Argued this a hundred times with leaf fans, and they say they still expect an op for an overpriced Nylander.

Not gonna happen. Leaf fans expect everything. Now I will say there are a bunch of leaf fans that are not like the majority. They have good conversations and don't over value those players.

 

[coopooter]

Nylander is a ticking time bomb right now. They have less than one month to get him to sign otherwise they have to deal him. I cant imagine they would go into next offseason needing to sign Matthews Marner and Nylander. Dubas would not survive that

 

[AppsSyl]

All this Slavin talk is nonsense. Slavin is a top pairing D signed for the next 7 yrs at a steal of a deal and he’s one of CAR’s most marketable, not to mention irreplaceable players. He’s also a LD, not the RD TOR lacks.

CAR has the currency of Faulk and Pesce to peddle for fwd help. I’d be floored if Slavin’s name has come up at all in Nylander discussions as a serious trade chip.

You are forgetting that it is rumored the Canes are the ones pursuing Nylander hard, and that there are upwards of 15 teams interested. This isn't a case of the Leafs selling a player for below equal value in return. For all those saying that Nylander is not worth Slavin, they also have realize that Pesce is not worth Nylander. A Pesce for Nylander deal has Hall/Larsson written all over it. Pesce is the flavor of the week on here, but he is nowhere near the upside of Nylander.

As for an earlier post you wrote saying that in a bigger deal saying all of Svech, Necas and Fox are off the table. I agree Svech is likely not attainable, but as far as Necas or Fox (not that I want Fox, since it looks like he could go to FA after college), you have to give quality to get quality. If Pesce is the main piece you have to add someone like a Necas.

 

[spockBokk]

You are forgetting that it is rumored the Canes are the ones pursuing Nylander hard, and that there are upwards of 15 teams interested. This isn't a case of the Leafs selling a player for below equal value in return. For all those saying that Nylander is not worth Slavin, they also have realize that Pesce is not worth Nylander. A Pesce for Nylander deal has Hall/Larsson written all over it. Pesce is the flavor of the week on here, but he is nowhere near the upside of Nylander.

As for an earlier post you wrote saying that in a bigger deal saying all of Svech, Necas and Fox are off the table. I agree Svech is likely not attainable, but as far as Necas or Fox (not that I want Fox, since it looks like he could go to FA after college), you have to give quality to get quality. If Pesce is the main piece you have to add someone like a Necas.

Yeah, Pesce plus Necas for Nylander would be a [MOD] dream for Dubas...ain’t happening.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Dubas would be dumb as hell to trade Nylander for Pesce and even dumber if he traded him for Faulk.

Slavin or gtfo

Fine, GTFO then. I can't see any way the Canes move Slavin for Nylander.

 

[Ziggdiezan]

Because Nylander is a proven 60+ point player that can play C and W and Kapanen is still mostly just potential at this point. Nice sell on Kapanen but there’s a reason you’d rather give him ++ up than Nylander - because he’s nowhere near as good and probably never will be.

Carolina’s AHL team is excellent, they have their own Kapanen’s coming.

Of course I wouldn't want to deal Nylander that is why I was wondering if a deal around Kap might make sense with some pluses considering Pecse is being wasted on the 3rd pairing. I get why they would want to do a 1 for 1 trade.

 

[BrannigansLaw]

Fine, GTFO then. I can't see any way the Canes move Slavin for Nylander.

Sounds good to me. We don’t want second tier talent for our elite young winger.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

You are forgetting that it is rumored the Canes are the ones pursuing Nylander hard, and that there are upwards of 15 teams interested. This isn't a case of the Leafs selling a player for below equal value in return. For all those saying that Nylander is not worth Slavin, they also have realize that Pesce is not worth Nylander. A Pesce for Nylander deal has Hall/Larsson written all over it. Pesce is the flavor of the week on here, but he is nowhere near the upside of Nylander.

You are forgetting that the Leafs are having trouble signing Nylander. If the Canes trade Slavin for Nylander, I'll be downright shocked. I would love to have Nylander on Carolina, but wouldn't even consider Slavin for him for 1 second.

As for an earlier post you wrote saying that in a bigger deal saying all of Svech, Necas and Fox are off the table. I agree Svech is likely not attainable, but as far as Necas or Fox (not that I want Fox, since it looks like he could go to FA after college), you have to give quality to get quality. If Pesce is the main piece you have to add someone like a Necas.

No, That's what YOU want. Doesn't mean that's what the Canes need to add. Of course, our GM isn't the greatest so I'll never say never, but if he adds Necas to Pesce for Nylander, I'll be pissed.

 

[Cane mutiny]

Quite honestly, I rate Nylander very highly and Kuokkanen isn't even your top 5 prospect if you look at it.

I rate Zykov, Svech, Fox, Foegelle, Necas all higher. It's not that big of an add.

I think Carolina would have to add to Pesce to get Nylander, not the other way around. The only way its a straight up swap is if Slavin is coming back.

I love dreaming, too.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Sounds good to me. We don’t want second tier talent for our elite young winger.

Oh, how cute.

 

[flamesforcup]

Sounds good to me. We don’t want second tier talent for our elite young winger.

If u want Slavin the convo starts with Matthews

 

[Cane mutiny]

Yup Faulk + Pesce for Nylander+

no way. more like Faulk + Rask for Kadri

 

[BM14]

Wondering who the leafs are willing to move to make room for what Nylander is asking.

Can't see the Canes scouting games when he's not around unless its the plus on top of Nylander.

Nobody.

6.5 or sit your ass for the next 5 years.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

You are forgetting that it is rumored the Canes are the ones pursuing Nylander hard, and that there are upwards of 15 teams interested. This isn't a case of the Leafs selling a player for below equal value in return. For all those saying that Nylander is not worth Slavin, they also have realize that Pesce is not worth Nylander. A Pesce for Nylander deal has Hall/Larsson written all over it. Pesce is the flavor of the week on here, but he is nowhere near the upside of Nylander.

As for an earlier post you wrote saying that in a bigger deal saying all of Svech, Necas and Fox are off the table. I agree Svech is likely not attainable, but as far as Necas or Fox (not that I want Fox, since it looks like he could go to FA after college), you have to give quality to get quality. If Pesce is the main piece you have to add someone like a Necas.

Pesce plus Necas for Nylander?

This just keeps getting funnier and funnier.

 

[Cane mutiny]

We can keep our “deep” defense corps even with a Pesce trade. Faulk moves up a pairing, TVR slides to his natural side and Fleury enters the lineup. There’s zero need for a guy like Zaitsev.

No. Pesce is a better D and signed long term at below his actual value. Moving more than Faulk + something small for an unsigned Nylander would be stupid.

 

[FrozenJagrt]

If Nylander is traded to the Canes, I give it a half hour before a certain HFBoards user abandons the Islanders board to join forces with the Canes and talk about what a superstar Nylander is and how idiotic Kyle "Dumas" is.

 

[joe dirte]

Canes trying to figure out if Patrick Marleau still has gas in the tank.

 

[Foppberg]

Canes would be dumb to consider trading Pesce for Nylander, or Kadri.

Necas + maybe.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Would a package around Kap work for Pesce with adds from Toronto?

Pesce is worth more then Kapanen, Try more like something around either Nylander or Kadri.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Canes trying to figure out if Patrick Marleau still has gas in the tank.

Oh, I hope not. Thankfully, Marleau has a NMC, right?

 

[Cotton]

If u want Slavin the convo starts with Matthews

According to Mackenzie in a Nylander trade the Leafs will be looking at Slavin or Pesce.

Not Matthews, Nylander.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

Canes would be dumb to consider trading Pesce for Nylander, or Kadri.

Necas + maybe.

As a Canes fan first (Leaf's 2nd), I disagree. I'd do Pesce+ for Nylander. Would love Kadri as well but don't see the Leafs even considering moving Kadri.

 

[joe dirte]

Obviously for Holl -- the return would be more like a late draft pick, whereas with Zaitsev, that would allow the Canes to keep their ridiculously deep D; and possibly worth losing a forward that can help supplement Toronto's group -- where they are admittedly struggling to get tertiary scoring right now.

What are you even talking about?

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

According to Mackenzie in a Nylander trade the Leafs will be looking at Slavin or Pesce.

Not Matthews, Nylander.

What's his exact quote? Because IMO, Slavin is virtually untouchable in Carolina, regardless what media speculates about.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

I don’t call myself that

Fair enough. Sorry. I was being a bit snarky and if your question was serious, I apologize.