Speculation: There is something going on between Toronto - Carolina (MOD NOTE IN OP)

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  1. Kamiccolo

    Kamiccolo Hockey is back

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    Their AGM is scouting them tonight



    This comes after Dubas scouted Carolina last week




    These teams don't play for another three weeks.

    Doubt it involves Nylander as obviously he isn't even in the country.

    MOD NOTE: Just a heads up, all, but discussion about Nylander should be contained within the Nylander thread. Want to discuss this absent Nylander? Go right ahead. If talk sticks to Nylander though, this is getting shut down.
     
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    Kadri maybe? Not sure what else Carolina would be interested in?
     
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    StaalsXpensiveCTDigs Available for trade! Call Gorton now!

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    Something could be going on. Or not. People scout teams all the time for a multitude of reasons.
     
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    Pretty widely rumoured the Leafs want Pesce.

    My guess is Carolina wanted Nylander, Dubas countered with... who knows what. Carolina’s there scouting whoever Dubas countered with.
     
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    Is there even a single rumour from a credible source or just people on here who think its a fit?
     
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    Would a package around Kap work for Pesce with adds from Toronto?
     
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    Victor Rask and Faulk for Kadri E5
     
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    I’m pretty sure LeBrun had something on it recently and I seem to remember Friedman mentioning it as well. There’s a significant amount of smoke.
     
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    No. CAR doesn't really need a package. And likely doesn't need a winger.
     
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    Why would that in any way work for Carolina?
     
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    Oh please, everyone in the world knows this is about Nylander.
     
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    They are looking at the add ons to Nylander to get you Pesce.
     
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    Do you think it might be something like Pesce for Nylander + something small?
     
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    I would say the chances of a trade this year are lower than Nylander signing a bridge.
     
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    I can't see the only add being on the Leafs end. Maybe a small add on both sides.
     
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    I think Nylander for Pesce is bad for Toronto, and yes I understand Pesce's value comes in part from his contract. I don't think it's Hall for Larsson bad but it could have a similar effect.

    Adding Tavares and losing Bozak, JVR, and Nylander doesn't scream offensive powerhouse.

    So if it's Pesce they are after I would think that Dubas is shopping Kapanen or maybe Dermott, who is supposed to be returning to the lineup tonight.
     
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    Why would Nylander work for them? Fact he may become a center I'm guessing.

    Looking for a 1 for 1 is fair enough.

    They couldn't use a winger who can play PK, PP, both wings and play up and down the lineup?
     
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    Could be a big add on the Leafs side if the trade is not for a signed Nylander, but a rights to RFA unsigned Nylander. Maybe Dubas is sick of his crap and ready to punt him to someone else to take the risk.
     
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    Dubas is trying to sell them on zaitsev. Freeing up zaitsev money would allow the leafs to possibly keep gardiner.
     
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    why would somebody overpay in a trade that implies Nylander signs at 8.5m lmao
     
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    They have a couple down in the AHL who can probably produce 75% of Kapanen and not cost them a top 4 D.... so..... no they don't want to deal Pesce for Kapanen.

    Next.
     
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    Moving Pesce is extremely dumb for Carolina to do. He's More valuable than Nylander.

    Maybe for Kadri, because he is a two way top 6 C.
     
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    Because Nylander is a proven 60+ point player that can play C and W and Kapanen is still mostly just potential at this point. Nice sell on Kapanen but there’s a reason you’d rather give him ++ up than Nylander - because he’s nowhere near as good and probably never will be.

    Carolina’s AHL team is excellent, they have their own Kapanen’s coming.
     
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