Prospect Info: The Pavel Buchnevich Thread (Scores 2 Goals + Assist on Turkey Day)

[RangerBoy]

Game is over, Sev won 4-0 thanks to Buch's hat trick

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Season Stats:


GP: 30 | G: 10 | A: 13 | P: 23 | PIM: 14 | +1 | SOG: 76

Last Game: 4-0 Win (3G/0A/3P)
Next Game: November 21st vs Slovan (8th out of 28th)
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Severstal's Team Record: 14-15-1 (Ranked 27th out of 28th in league)


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How many more regular season games do they have remaining?

 

[Mac n Gs]

He's currently at 0.77 ppg (which by the way, can we add next to his stats if it's not too much trouble?). How does that compare to Kuznetsov and Tarasenko at this age?

 

[FLYLine27*]

How many more regular season games do they have remaining?

31 more games. He's at he halfway point of the season.

 

[Irishguy42]

He's currently at 0.77 ppg (which by the way, can we add next to his stats if it's not too much trouble?). How does that compare to Kuznetsov and Tarasenko at this age?

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QCzbV7WlrOqbecOxZ5wEBiH0Lcnphwxv2-JBCLzrWkc/edit?usp=sharing <- Google Doc by Kevin Power at BlueshirtBanter, he has already updated it through todays game.

 

[BlueshirtBlitz]

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuch.

How were the goals?

 

[Kshahdoo]

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuch.

How were the goals?

Great shot, great forecheck and just a goal.

Here you can see them all http://text.khl.ru/en/46340.html

 

[RangerBoy]

 

[FLYLine27*]

The Future..

 

[Ola]

DAMN. Awesome to hear.

When's the last time a Ranger actually scored a natural hatty? For some reason I want to say it was Gretzky almost 20 years ago. Anyone know?

Jeff Toms ? j/k

I think you could be right, listened to that game on radio back in the day.

 

[Kshahdoo]

The Future..

He reminds me The Postal Dude from Postal 2 videogame.

 

[ecemleafs]

did he actually score the 1st goal?

 

[BarbaraAlphanse]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QCzbV7WlrOqbecOxZ5wEBiH0Lcnphwxv2-JBCLzrWkc/edit?usp=sharing <- Google Doc by Kevin Power at BlueshirtBanter, he has already updated it through todays game.

I wonder would his individual stats be better on a better team? But love the improvement every year.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

From what I've watched, which is about half of the games, 80% of the time he has games where he creates 4 or 5 good scoring chances a game for him or his teammates that could easily result in goals.

Thats not to say all of them should or will result in goals and that he'll have multiple point games every game at this level or the NHL level, but I'm not surprised about the hat-trick because he doesn't just get carried by his line mates and get secondary assists, he's consistently the best player on the ice most of the games he plays. Eventually, you just expected one of these types of games was going to happen. I really think on a better team in the KHL that he'd be at about 1 PPG.

 

[Irishguy42]

I wonder would his individual stats be better on a better team? But love the improvement every year.

I can totally see him doing PPG or greater on a better team.

 

[kovazub94]

Trust me, I'd like nothing more than Buch-a-mania to explode, for him to start his NHL on fire and be a key cog in a Championship.

But, based on a number of factors, I'm just not quite convinced he comes in tears it up.

He's been very good in the KHL, but his success hasn't been unheard of or off the charts.

And you're right, it is a fairly conservative projection. I've never been one to proclaim that a kid is going to come into town and blow everyone away. It's also why I'm usually pretty accurate, though I have my share of misses as well.

I'm not sure I'd compare Buchnevich at age 20 to Hayes at 22 or Lindberg at 24. Certainly, he's more naturally gifted than those two players, but transitioning to the NHL, at age 20, in mid-season is challenging, even for a kid with the tool box that Buch has.

Kuznetsov put up 9 points in 17 games as a 21-year old when he transitioned to the NHL one and a half years ago. I don't think a similar projection for Buch is out of left field or overly harsh.

If he betters that pace - fantastic. They'll be no complaints from me.

I normally would take the same approach and try to temper my expectations while Pavel goes through a period of adaptation that typically could be up to 1.5 - 2.5 seasons. Same as you I would've looked at how Kuznetsov, Kucherov and Tarasenko produced at the start of their NHL careers (that was actually on a par with most other non-Russian prospects transitioning eventually into top NHL roles). However, what is a variable in case of Buchnevich is that he's joining an offensively loaded top to bottom team. Just saying that he might exceed tempered expectations.

 

[darko]

Adam Graves gave Buchnevich some pointers.

Let's hope Buch was so impressed that he went out and bought a dictionary. Coming to America, the Russian version.

 

[RangerBoy]

Let's hope Buch was so impressed that he went out and bought a dictionary. Coming to America, the Russian version.

I am sure Nik Bobrov was with Adam to translate for him.

 

[Beacon]

Must of told him to shoot the puck

That's what I posted here after watching him last game. Great shot that needs to be taken advantage of more.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

On that third shot, is that just bad goaltending or a really good shot?

The goalie is made to look like a complete fool. I can't figure out whether thats his fault or just a terrific shot.

 

[Mac n Gs]

On that third shot, is that just bad goaltending or a really good shot?

The goalie is made to look like a complete fool. I can't figure out whether thats his fault or just a terrific shot.

I was trying to figure out the same thing. It looks like the goalie loat his footing and got tripped up, but then again, Pavel absolutely rips that shot from the high slot.

Also, does Kagarlitsky have any NHL future? I know he's 26, but it looks like he has a ton of skill

 

[Amazing Kreiderman]

I was trying to figure out the same thing. It looks like the goalie loat his footing and got tripped up, but then again, Pavel absolutely rips that shot from the high slot.

Also, does Kagarlitsky have any NHL future? I know he's 26, but it looks like he has a ton of skill

I remember thinking the same about Weinhandl about 7 years back. Some players are just better suited for European sized rinks

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

I think Kagarlitsky could be a 13th forward type of player, but not more than that.

 

[Edge]

I wonder would his individual stats be better on a better team? But love the improvement every year.

I'd be shocked if they weren't.

His surrounding cast is one of the factors to remember when comparing Buch to other top Russian forwards at a young age.

 

[ZiGOODejad]

Damn hope the dude comes over this season

 

[Beacon]

Damn hope the dude comes over this season

At the very least, he should add third line depth to the team for nothing. More scoring depth could be key in the playoffs when depth is even more important.