The no man's land

[26Mats]

It's a parity league. Half the league is in no man's land.

 

[LaP]

I lol @ seeing both the "time to make a push" and "no mans land" threads on the same page.

Can we just choose a direction ? And by choose, I mean lose for a few years.

Personally i would not mind any direction. I would not mind us making a push since weber and price are not getting younger. And i would certainly not mind us trading some of our vets and attempting a quick retool.

But acquiring Nate Thompson and Dale Weise is certainly not making a push and keeping a guy like Petry will not attempting to win now would be stupid. I certainly do not support doing nothing. Making a push would be acquiring Panarin and Fowler.

 

[Milhouse40]

A team can still think this year and the next 2 seasons. Petry at 2.75mil for 2 and a half year is a good deal for any top contending team. Petry would look good with Tampa Bay on the second pair with McDonagh.

Yeah, but Tampa doesn't have a 1st round pick....don't even have a 2nd round pick.

 

[Pat Riot]

Yeah, but Tampa doesn't have a 1st round pick....don't even have a 2nd round pick.

We probably would ask for Sergachev back if we trade them Petry

 

[Lshap]

I lol @ seeing both the "time to make a push" and "no mans land" threads on the same page.

Can we just choose a direction ? And by choose, I mean lose for a few years.

I appreciate irony as much as the next guy, but in this case I understand the disconnect between two totally separate directions. The brain says we're not ready, we need to fortify our position before going into battle. But the heart feeds on hope and the exciting variability of the playoffs. That's what being a fan's all about -- you know there's no logical way your team can win, but you cheer for them anyways.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

We are slowly slipping out of the playoff picture as expected. Hopefully we are on the sellers side at the trade deadline. Petry ,Tatar, Byron , Shaw need to be shop. Petry would fetch us a king ransom, 1st round pick plus A prospect.

TDL is in a week bro....

 

[Conflicted Habs fan]

Habs are going to win the Stanley Cup 2019! #25. Naysayers be damned!

 

[Lshap]

We are slowly slipping out of the playoff picture as expected. Hopefully we are on the sellers side at the trade deadline. Petry ,Tatar, Byron , Shaw need to be shop. Petry would fetch us a king ransom, 1st round pick plus A prospect.

Yup. The benefit of a losing streak is it acts like a cleanse for any playoff fantasies Bergevin might have had. I'm pissed that we lost the last three games, but I'm happy that it increases the odds of staying on course and building for tomorrow.

Only thing I disagree with is trade deadline selling. Unless a playoff team is willing to part with a top prospect, better to do nothing. There's no point in getting picks from playoff teams who are picking at the end of the round. Wait for June and trade up in the draft with a non-playoff team.

 

[Kriss E]

Habs are going to win the Stanley Cup 2019! #25. Naysayers be damned!

Are we even going to make the POs?

 

[BaseballCoach]

Yup. The benefit of a losing streak is it acts like a cleanse for any playoff fantasies Bergevin might have had. I'm pissed that we lost the last three games, but I'm happy that it increases the odds of staying on course and building for tomorrow.

Only thing I disagree with is trade deadline selling. Unless a playoff team is willing to part with a top prospect, better to do nothing. There's no point in getting picks from playoff teams who are picking at the end of the round. Wait for June and trade up in the draft with a non-playoff team.

Good callout, but it is solvable. You simply evaluate the pick by the likely draft rank, and not just by "round". Then you decide if a prospect or actual offered pick is better.

I have no objection if they can get something of value for Benn, Niemi, Hudon, Lernout - to be analyzed case by case.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

Habs are going to win the Stanley Cup 2019! #25. Naysayers be damned!

Crisse... is this another burner account?

What are all these lurkers comin out of the woodwork lately?

 

[Lshap]

Are we even going to make the POs?

If Vegas can make the SCF as an expansion outlier, Habs can win the Cup even without making the playoffs. Gotta stay positive!

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

If Vegas can make the SCF as an expansion outlier, Habs can win the Cup even without making the playoffs. Gotta stay positive!

I started reading and was wondering when the punch was coming

 

[Pat Riot]

Yup. The benefit of a losing streak is it acts like a cleanse for any playoff fantasies Bergevin might have had. I'm pissed that we lost the last three games, but I'm happy that it increases the odds of staying on course and building for tomorrow.

Only thing I disagree with is trade deadline selling. Unless a playoff team is willing to part with a top prospect, better to do nothing. There's no point in getting picks from playoff teams who are picking at the end of the round. Wait for June and trade up in the draft with a non-playoff team.

Grade A prospects are more important than picks. I would accept a lower pick depending on the prospect. I wouldnt trade Petry only for a pick thats for sure except if its a top 5 pick

 

[BLONG7]

MB will not choose a direction.............he just doesn't have the stones. Build through the draft they say, it's easy to hide behind. We will have to give him another 7 yrs for sure...

I don't want him to sacrifice the prospects or a 1st either, but staying safe in the middle, while teams around us get better, can be frustrating.

He needs to be fired, and then hire a guy who we will actually hold accountable...a guy who will pick a direction for sure this time.

 

[OldCraig71]

What is worse, potentially getting swept in 4 by Tampa or continuing to lose games we need to win and finishing 10th in the east?

 

[Milhouse40]

What is worse, potentially getting swept in 4 by Tampa or continuing to lose games we need to win and finishing 10th in the east?

There's nothing worst than missing the PO and getting the worst possible pick for a non-po team in my opinion.

 

[OldCraig71]

MB will not choose a direction.............he just doesn't have the stones. Build through the draft they say, it's easy to hide behind. We will have to give him another 7 yrs for sure...

I don't want him to sacrifice the prospects or a 1st either, but staying safe in the middle, while teams around us get better, can be frustrating.

He needs to be fired, and then hire a guy who we will actually hold accountable...a guy who will pick a direction for sure this time.

If and when he is fired I hope we can finally hire the best candidate available for the job, we desperately need it.

 

[Pat Riot]

If and when he is fired I hope we can finally hire the best candidate available for the job, we desperately need it.

In order to do that, getting rid of the french speaking policy would be a great start. FFS cant they hire a translator and put subtitles when he does one interview. Same goes for the coach , im not a big fan of claude. Hes done, time to retire and leave the place to younger coach who get along better with the new generation of players

 

[OldCraig71]

In order to do that, getting rid of the french speaking policy would be a great start. FFS cant they hire a translator and put subtitles when he does one interview. Same goes for the coach , im not a big fan of claude. Hes done, time to retire and leave the place to younger coach who get along better with the new generation of players

In order to have the best chance at winning in pro sports you need the best possible athletes and the most qualified best minds to run the team as well. I hate the criteria attached especially to our gm position, it has certainly not worked for the last 25 years when it comes to winning so is it even about winning or is it all part of the marketing campaign designed at selling more products?

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

What is worse, potentially getting swept in 4 by Tampa or continuing to lose games we need to win and finishing 10th in the east?

The answer should be self-evident.

 

[Per Sjoblom]

In order to do that, getting rid of the french speaking policy would be a great start. FFS cant they hire a translator and put subtitles when he does one interview. Same goes for the coach , im not a big fan of claude. Hes done, time to retire and leave the place to younger coach who get along better with the new generation of players

For a while I missed that comma and saw; "Hes done time".

 

[Pat Riot]

For a while I missed that comma and saw; "Hes done time".

Thats funny. I dont know his rap sheet so you never know. Maybe Claude was a bad boy during his youth

 

[cphabs]

It's a parity league. Half the league is in no man's land.

It burns my arss that we have to revenue share.

 

[ECWHSWI]

I appreciate irony as much as the next guy, but in this case I understand the disconnect between two totally separate directions. The brain says we're not ready, we need to fortify our position before going into battle. But the heart feeds on hope and the exciting variability of the playoffs. That's what being a fan's all about -- you know there's no logical way your team can win, but you cheer for them anyways.

or maybe people are just tired of the Habs not picking a direction.


I'm not at all in favor of making a PO push, team is clearly not ready, but I'd rather Habs do that than nothing happening, again.