The ACC is Just a Cocktail Bar/Sushi Restaurant

[topched]

If you haven't noticed, those types of jobs aren't readily available. It's not a matter of applying oneself, as the average person likely works harder than the average suit. It's not an laziness problem. It's a social mobility problem stemming from the failure of capitalism as a whole.

It's easy to blame the poor or the wealthy, but they're both pawns in the bigger scheme of things. The US and EU economies need to pick up, and only then will it be an issue of bootstrapping.

CAPITALISM = EMPTY ACC PLATINUM SEATS TO START PERIODS

/END THREAD

 

[Epictetus]

People, human-beings are by nature unequal. Live with it. Instead of complaining about a failed economy and 'inequality' and 'suits' and blah blah, you should be trying to better yourself.

Accept responsibility for your actions.

I will say that I hate attending sporting events because of the amount of human beings that attend and how loud it is. But, if the ACC is truly how you all are telling me, namely, with no noise and all these empty seats, then I might just have to attend.

 

[JLP]

If you are going to a hockey arena in Toronto to eat sushi you are an idiot.

 

[Rude Dog]

I go to probably 5 - 7 games a year (usually in the platinums). So I am one of those guys. But I will tell you it's not easy to get back to your seat at times. The teams come out a couple of minutes before the face off and block you from getting to your seats. Once they pass (like waiting for a train), you try to get to your seat but there is a line up. Once the puck drops, you are at the mercy of the next whistle. Even then only half the line ususally gets to go before it starts up again.

The other thing people have to remember is that you are normally there with business clients or colleagues (normally very good clients). If they are reserved, you can't really just start hollering at every player that goes by in fear of their re-action. But I will say, that I am one of the first one's standing up to cheer, chanting Go Leafs Go and singing the anthem...unlike a lot of the fans in the building (whether in platinums or the 500 level). The lack of standing ovations in that building is embarassing.

 

[GordieHoweHatTrick]

This is the most famous half-turn that GordieHoweHatTrick was getting.

I don't watch as much Seinfeld as I probably should. Funny guy

 

[Rude Dog]

Burke talked about getting rid of blue and white disease. Same thing for the crowd. They need to figure out a better in game experience. The Raps do a way better job. The "Come on Toronto ... make some noise" is brutal. Right now, everyone is worried about what others think. If the normal becomes loud and crazy, then even the most mild person begins to scream if everyone else is doing it. Right now, everyone sits in their seats because 70% of the crowd is doing the same thing.

Suggestions:

1) Get rid of the dudes shovelling the ice at breaks. Let's get some hot Leaf girls out there. May not help with noise, but I would certainly find it entertaining

2) Use some of that telecom money to hire the best event co-ordinator's out there for ceremonies. Too often I just want it to stop. Keep it simple.

3) Getting something that is original. Made a big mistake being forced to share the Raptor's arena instead of building their own. But I would have loved to see something original like Chicago had with their organ. Maybe something like a big drum or section of drums to get things going? Followed by some simple original chants ? It's time for the "Go Leafs Go" chant to evolve. Chants themselves almost need to evolve and can't be forced...but something. New traditions have to start somewhere. If anyone has had a chance to watch a soccer game in Europe you would understand. I know it's not part of North American culture but it certainly helps engage the fans (especially when making fun of a rival team).

4) Plant 1000 rowdy fans in the stands whose job it is to get some emotion in the building. Again, once a few people start...the masses tend to follow. Even if they hide them in the standing room only areas.

5) Do a better job urging or reminding Platinum seat holders that the game is about to begin. It does get comfortable in that box, especially with good looking hostesses.

6) Hire inspiring anthem singers. Nothing worse then trying to get pumped up for a game then with an opera singer belting it out.

7) Start winning. Admitting you are a Leaf fan hasn't been easy over the last decade.

 

[Patty Lee]

If you are going to a hockey arena in Toronto to eat sushi you are an idiot.

people go to watch a game and that is one of the perks.

you could same the same about people drinking beer couldn't you???

 

[ACC1224]

If you are going to a hockey arena in Toronto to eat sushi you are an idiot.

If you think people go there just for Sushi you're probably one as well.

 

[BillyD]

If you haven't noticed, those types of jobs aren't readily available. It's not a matter of applying oneself, as the average person likely works harder than the average suit. It's not an laziness problem. It's a social mobility problem stemming from the failure of capitalism as a whole.

It's easy to blame the poor or the wealthy, but they're both pawns in the bigger scheme of things. The US and EU economies need to pick up, and only then will it be an issue of bootstrapping.

you're not one of those terrorist people are you? sounds like a manifesto for Occupy Platinum

 

[pooleboy]

u think there wont be any suits at the blue jays home opener? they will be watching..... how? having a successful team (or hyped up team)

u want the place to be rocking? win.

 

[IWD]

CAPITALISM = EMPTY ACC PLATINUM SEATS TO START PERIODS

/END THREAD

That's an interesting hypothesis you have there. Can't say I agree.

 

[IWD]

you're not one of those terrorist people are you? sounds like a manifesto for Occupy Platinum

I guess I need to simplify it down a few notches to let those non-"lefty hippie socialists" figure it out.

You're repeating the same old bootstrap mantra that many who are out-of-touch with reality spout off. The poster you were responding to made a valid point that you ignored, so there's no need to condescend and kick him while he's down.

Those jobs you claim he needs to apply himself to in order to get tickets generally don't exist in large numbers. Statistically, he's unlikely to land them regardless of how much he applies himself. The point isn't to blame the working class fan or the suit in the front row. The problem lies in a system that lacks opportunity.

 

[BillyD]

I guess I need to simplify it down a few notches to let those non-"lefty hippie socialists" figure it out.

You're repeating the same old bootstrap mantra that many who are out-of-touch with reality spout off. The poster you were responding to made a valid point that you ignored, so there's no need to condescend and kick him while he's down.

Those jobs you claim he needs to apply himself to in order to get tickets generally don't exist in large numbers. Statistically, he's unlikely to land them regardless of how much he applies himself. The point isn't to blame the working class fan or the suit in the front row. The problem lies in a system that lacks opportunity.

if you are that depressed about the world why watch hockey?

 

[Snow Dog]

I guess I need to simplify it down a few notches to let those non-"lefty hippie socialists" figure it out.

You're repeating the same old bootstrap mantra that many who are out-of-touch with reality spout off. The poster you were responding to made a valid point that you ignored, so there's no need to condescend and kick him while he's down.

Those jobs you claim he needs to apply himself to in order to get tickets generally don't exist in large numbers. Statistically, he's unlikely to land them regardless of how much he applies himself. The point isn't to blame the working class fan or the suit in the front row. The problem lies in a system that lacks opportunity.

What?I thought we were talking hockey.

 

[colchar]

Without any evidence as to when that photo was taken, it is completely meaningless.

 

[Hurt]

Its not a blanket statement. Its happened to me before so it happens. Might not happen often but it happens, therefore not a blanket statement. Someone else in this thread has said theyve been told to quiet down by security and I've got a buddy whose been told to quiet down for cheering too loudly at a game before.

I wouldnt say its a completely blanket statement at all. Your definition of cheering loudly might be different than mine though. The ACC is pretty quiet so cheering loudly there compared to the people around you is different than in other arenas.

If you sit in the gold/platinums you will actually get told to quiet down or get dirty looks for acting like a real fan.

Sounds like someone's talking in absolutes. Where's this fan measurement device that I keep hearing so much about? I heard you lose 10 fan points if you wear a suit.

 

[colchar]

why would you give your clients/possible business Leaf tickets if you didnt know they liked the leafs.

Did you ever consider they might be hockey fans who just want to go to an NHL game?

The leafs since the lockout have been a joke around the city.

Really? Last I checked the Leafs have been pretty good since the lockout and are currently sitting in the top ten in the league.

 

[Snow Dog]

Why not just make the intermission 15 mins longer that way said "suits"have time to finish their snack.

 

[colchar]

What exactly is the problem with a) wearing a suit b) enjoying sushi/drinking a martini c) hanging out in the lounge (that has been paid for) anyway? It's all just entertainment.

Probably the politics of envy.

 

[Hurt]

Why not just make the intermission 15 mins longer that way said "suits"have time to finish their snack.

Except the league doesn't revolve around the attendees of the lower bowl of the Toronto Maple Leafs.

 

[leafspring*]

Watching a game in Ottawa is easily 3times louder/better fans. Sens fans rock all over the new leaf fan.

They have suits to so maybe its pruuuuuudent we call the poor fan a poor fan.

 

[IWD]

What?I thought we were talking hockey.

We're talking about hockey tickets.

if you are that depressed about the world why watch hockey?

Who's depressed? You told another poster to get off his lazy ass and work harder so he can afford tickets. That's misguided and ignorant, and I explained why it was naive to think that. I also explained why it's unfair to blame both the suits and the working class fans when neither are the actual problem. And you responded with something about terrorism, presumably because you don't know a thing about sociology or anthropology.

 

[colchar]

I was born and raised in Ontario and I have supported the Leafs since Gretzky retired.

In other words, not for very long. Dude, some of us have been Leafs fans for more than double the time that you have been following the team.

But if I was told I could only attend 1 more NHL game, it would absolutely not be in Toronto. Just a terrible atmosphere for hockey. I would chose every other Canadian city and a good 15 American cities before Toronto.

I'm sure the most valuable team in the league won't miss your money at all. But at least the rest of us won't have to listen to you whine and cry over something as inconsequential as this. Seriously, do you not have more important things in life to worry about? In the grand scheme of things this issue is meaningless but, unfortunately, you obviously lack perspective.

 

[Snow Dog]

Guessing you don't watch Seinfeld.



Anyway, the real reason the seats are like this after intermissions is that the ushers won't let you go to your seats while the game is in progress. If you miss the puck drop because you're buying a beer or lining up for the bathroom, you don't get to head back to your seat until a break in the play. Sometimes it takes several breaks in play if the usher to your section is only letting a few people through. Sometimes it takes until the first commercial time out before the majority of people are able to get back.

Out of about 20 leaf games that I have been to sitting from Platinums to purples I have never once missed the opening face off in a period.

Period ends,take a leak,one guy lines up for beer,one for food or other drinks,back with time to spare.When you could go out for a smoke there was even time to have a quick puff.

 

[colchar]

Kinda OT, but I don't think that's quite what those protests were about. I mean they had Occupy protests in Wales. Who the hell's wearing a suit in Wales?

Do you think the Taffs are all sheep farmers or something? Have you never heard of Cardiff? Or Swansea? Do you not realize that, since they are part of the United Kingdom, their tax dollars went to bailing out various banks that had gotten themselves in trouble so there was every reason for them to protest too?