Friedman: Teams interested in Trocheck

[rocketdan9]

Makes no sense. Trockeck is signed on a team friendly deal for the next several years. Why would they trade him

Also why would they trade period, unless UFA to be Dadanov or Hoffman have indicated they won't resign

they are on the playoffs cusp

 

[flyerslducks]

We don't have any need for Ghostisbehere.

what about frost lol

 

[Ryuji Yamazaki]

what about frost lol

I don't know enough about him.

 

[GermanPanther]

Makes no sense. Trockeck is signed on a team friendly deal for the next several years. Why would they trade him

Also why would they trade period, unless UFA to be Dadanov or Hoffman have indicated they won't resign

they are on the playoffs cusp

The Problem is his Game is current off the Chart and there is no indication that his Game will be better.
There is 0% back from the Form Trocheck had before he was Injured. And his 1 Way Game, doesnt execute, puck posession something Q loves and Board Battle you wont get that from Trocheck.
No matter how good the Contract looks and is, it doesnt help the Team and the Game.

Dadonov and Hoffman in my Sight are the better Player then Trocheck is since his comeback. So i guess Panthers look here for a 2nd Line Center who fits more into Q´s system.

 

[Beezeral]

gostisbehere + for trocheck? how far off is that

The Panthers don't need another Offensive defenseman so you are very far off.

He’s actually been pretty good this year and was great last year in the playoffs.

PDB also said last year he was going through personal problems almost all year and his struggles looked like a lack of concentration/effort rather than him losing a step.

It was also said that teams were interested in him at the beginning of the year, which his value has to have gone up since then.

He's been brutal this season. His value is at an all time low with that contract.

 

[TheWayToRefJose]

The Panthers don't need another Offensive defenseman so you are very far off.

He's been brutal this season. His value is at an all time low with that contract.

He’s been much, much better this year than last. Ask any Sharks fan who’s watched the majority of the games. And there was interest in him at the beginning of the season before he picked his play back up.

 

[Beezeral]

He’s been much, much better this year than last. Ask any Sharks fan who’s watched the majority of the games. And there was interest in him at the beginning of the season before he picked his play back up.

 

[AZviaNJ]

Phil Kessel would LOVE Florida, and Florida would love him. Just saying.....

 

[TheWayToRefJose]

That’s a really bad chart to evaluate a player like Vlasic, especially when he’s on a putrid team as that chart is relative to the league, not SJ, and even then still wouldn’t be adjusted for zone starts, quality of competition, and quality of teammates.

Vlasic is the leading defenseman that has played for more than a handful of game for SJ in CF% and XGF% for both QoT and QoC. That seems like a much better metric to use than your chart.

Vlasic is constantly given D zone starts against the toughest competition the other team has to offer.

 

[Beezeral]

That’s a really bad chart to evaluate a player like Vlasic, especially when he’s on a putrid team as that chart is relative to the league, not SJ, and even then still wouldn’t be adjusted for zone starts, quality of competition, and quality of teammates.

Vlasic is the leading defenseman that has played for more than a handful of game for SJ in CF% and XGF% for both QoT and QoC. That seems like a much better metric to use than your chart.

Vlasic is constantly given D zone starts against the toughest competition the other team has to offer.

a chart that compares where he gives up shots while on the ice compared to the rest of the NHL is a bad way to grade how good a defenseman is defensively? Wat?

 

[TheWayToRefJose]

a chart that compares where he gives up shots while on the ice compared to the rest of the NHL is a bad way to grade how good a defenseman is defensively? Wat?

There’s zero context in that.

Vlasic plays for a god awful team, gets the most D zone starts on the team, and gets hard matched against top lines a lot. He’s also been paired with Erik Karlsson, who hasn’t been good this year, and Mario Ferraro, a first year pro D man.

No shit he’s going to have bad fenwick compared to the rest of the league. I’d be willing to bet everyone in SJ this year is going to look bad on that chart.

 

[Howboutthempanthers]

Makes no sense. Trockeck is signed on a team friendly deal for the next several years. Why would they trade him

Also why would they trade period, unless UFA to be Dadanov or Hoffman have indicated they won't resign

they are on the playoffs cusp

Well I think that it's more about teams asking for Trocheck instead of the Panthers shopping him. And add to that the fact that a lot Panthers fans are upset with Trocheck right now and are freely talking trade, it might give the wrong impression.

 

[mikeyp24]

Neither is enough to get Trocheck

thats understood we are asking who is the best starting point. Nuti is younger and more well rounded while savard is older but has established himself as a stand out defender who is probably top 3 to 5 shot blocker in the league. Nuti can play either side. Both can and have played #2. Nuti has been playing #2 since jones went down.

As far as adds go what other positions do you need?

 

[OVO16]

To Colorado for Zadorov

 

[PA Cats Fan]

To Colorado for Zadorov

What would we have to add to include Jost in that deal?

 

[Beezeral]

thats understood we are asking who is the best starting point. Nuti is younger and more well rounded while savard is older but has established himself as a stand out defender who is probably top 3 to 5 shot blocker in the league. Nuti can play either side. Both can and have played #2. Nuti has been playing #2 since jones went down.

As far as adds go what other positions do you need?

Neither is a good starting point.

 

[mikeyp24]

Neither is a good starting point.

Other FLA have been very in favor of savard but im talking to you now so who is your starting point. D wise Z, Jones, and Gavrikov are obviously off the table. Offense wise nothing like Bjorkstrand Bemstrom and foudy again obviously.

 

[PAZ]

What would we have to add to include Jost in that deal?

If you want Jost we'll probably include a 2nd to even it up.

Kidding aside, he has't shown well this year and definitely could use a change of scenery. Any Avs fan would be happy to include him as a throw-in, but I imagine he has some actual value of around a 2nd or a similar struggling prospect that isn't in the NHL right now.

 

[Beezeral]

Other FLA have been very in favor of savard but im talking to you now so who is your starting point. D wise Z, Jones, and Gavrikov are obviously off the table. Offense wise nothing like Bjorkstrand Bemstrom and foudy again obviously.

There’s no deal to be made then.

 

[mikeyp24]

There’s no deal to be made then.

We arent talking about Barkov here of course Jones and Bjorkstrand arent on the table...

 

[Beezeral]

We arent talking about Barkov here of course Jones and Bjorkstrand arent on the table...

The panthers are rumored to be talking with the Wild about Brodin. Someone who is considered one of, if not the best defensive defenseman in the NHL. So for the Panthers to do a deal with CBJ, they’d need a similar return from the blue jackets. The guys they have available don’t fit the caliber of player the panthers are looking for so there isn’t a deal to be made. Read Portzline’s recent article about fan created trades. Even he says a Nuti is not a good base for Trocheck.

 

[mikeyp24]

The panthers are rumored to be talking with the Wild about Brodin. Someone who is considered one of, if not the best defensive defenseman in the NHL. So for the Panthers to do a deal with CBJ, they’d need a similar return from the blue jackets. The guys they have available don’t fit the caliber of player the panthers are looking for so there isn’t a deal to be made. Read Portzline’s recent article about fan created trades. Even he says a Nuti is not a good base for Trocheck.

Portzline is no better then a CBJ board poster. Literally go ask anyone who he is connected with its.nobody even when he was the beat writter he was alwaya beat to the story or wrong about it 2hile others got the real story. Your using something commonly referred to as fake news.

 

[Patagonia]

What would we have to add to include Jost in that deal?

AVs need a 3C and a 2nd round pick they don't have this year. Zadorov + Jost both need a change and FL would work.

Trocheck
2020 - 2nd

for

Zadorov
Jost

Trocheck fits the AVs with age, contract and style of play for a 3C. Pick adds another player to their Farm system they traded away earlier this year. Zadorov is a good skater that provides size, youth and toughness. Jost is good defensively, but offence never developed; lacks size and above average skater. AVs players need a different opportunity and FL could be an ideal location.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

That’s a really bad chart to evaluate a player like Vlasic, especially when he’s on a putrid team as that chart is relative to the league, not SJ, and even then still wouldn’t be adjusted for zone starts, quality of competition, and quality of teammates.

Vlasic is the leading defenseman that has played for more than a handful of game for SJ in CF% and XGF% for both QoT and QoC. That seems like a much better metric to use than your chart.

Vlasic is constantly given D zone starts against the toughest competition the other team has to offer.

But he posted a chart! Don't you know that all the best players in the league just happen to be the ones who get the easiest minutes on the best teams?

 

[Skrudland2Lomakin]

There seems to be some really under value offers here.


This is a guy who has term on a team friendly contract and when healthy is a 20 goal scoring forward who slots into a ton of different roles.


The offers I see are what I’d expect you’d get for a rental