Confirmed Signing with Link: [TBL] Brayden Point re-signs with the Lightning (8 years, $9.5M AAV)

[DaBolts]

He really did. The only deal over $1m was re-signing his 25 year-old #1C.

Which doesn't kick in until the 2022-23 season so it's even sweeter.

 

[KidLine93]

Tampa was going to have to move 2 of the approximate $5M forwards. Seattle must have been asking for too much in a side deal to counter projected return on a trade of Gourde, Killorn, or Palat - they were going to have to move one of them anyway (in addition to Johnson) and I suppose might still move Killorn or Palat at some point. And by Seattle taking Gourde, the full NTC did not need to be worked around. It sucks to lose any of these guys that were developed by Tampa and these being players that didn't want to go anywhere.

I think tampa played it right. Just take it off the chin and lose one of them to seattle dont give up extra assets.. You had too many good players and a big cap crunch to not lose 1 at minimum anyways. They are set up for another cup run and it looks like they will find a way to get back under the cap for 1 more year at least.

noticed you edited your post to talk about point's contract. He's still young and his playoff resume makes him worth that AAV at minumum. WHo knows whats gonna happen 5 years from now, but for the next (4 or 5?) years Kuch, Hedman, Point, Vasy are locked in at reasonable prices .

 

[DaBolts]

awesome deal but

Vasi, Point, Kuch @ 9.5M
Stamkos @ 8.5M
Hedman @ 7.75M

that's a lot of dough for 5 players

Do you know how much yachts cost now a days?

 

[zar]

If you are going to go down this path then you have to include cot of living, i.e. real estate, price of a gallon milk, commute time, etc. OK mostly real estate.

Blah, blah, blah... that means very little compared to income tax rates, but you can go ahead and do the math if you want to... real estate in Canada is not cheap.

 

[Just A Bit Outside]

Seems on Point.

 

[DFC]

Wow, that's a lot of money and term. Can't say he doesn't deserve it, though. The guy is nails. What's Tampa's cap look like now?

We're pretty much out of the ditch now. We lost our 3rd line + Tyler Johnson. It's a set-back, but we're still a major contender.

 

[Mark Stones Spleen]

you think that's bad imagine having 4 players at almost $40M

You'd think that's bad enough on its own, but then you realize there isn't even a number 1 goalie or dman in that 40M.

 

[Hedmonster Bolt]

Lived in Florida. Lived In Colorado. I’ll take snow over humidity 10/10.

Lived in NY, I'll take the heat, easier to cool down than get warm. Other than August and September its not that bad, especially at night.

 

[DaBolts]

Certainly deserved, but going to squeeze the depth even further after next year. Will Palat be a goner?

He's probably gone in the next 48 hours if the right offer comes along.

 

[JustAnotherHockeyFan]

If I was Seattle I'd have taken Colton over any of them and then offered to take Gourde and Johnson combined for free or a warm body plucked from Columbus. Colton has the brightest road ahead of him imo.

 

[KidLine93]

You're being overly charitable. There were a couple posters, Merss being one of the primaries, that would tell anyone that would listen in TJ-related threads that we were going to have to pay 2 1sts to move his contract. It certainly wasn't everyone on the trade board, but there were a couple that were really invested in seeing us suffer--one even liked to call some of our posters "Polly Anna" if we thought we were going to move Johnson for less than two 1sts.

Im just glad you guys traded for Seabrook cuz based on the the last 48 hours Ken Holland was probably trying to get him, declare he's not injured, and get him to play with Keith and get the band back together.

 

[Five Alarm Fire]

Point nets out $5,258,935 in Tampa with a $9,500,000 AAV


For him to net out the same income in the Canadian markets:
Vancouver - $11, 500,000
Calgary - $11,000,000
Edmonton - $11,000,000
Winnipeg - $11,700,000
Ottawa - $12,700,000
Toronto - $12,700,000
Montreal - $12,600,000

EDIT: Corrected the numbers above for $9.5m AAV (new contract extension), vs. $9m (this years salary)

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This doesn't even account for signing bonus, probably an even bigger advantage.

 

[CarolinaBlueJacket]

Blah, blah, blah... that means very little compared to income tax rates, but you can go ahead and do the math if you want to... real estate in Canada is not cheap.

Blah, blah, blah? You said it yourself. Real estate can have a huge impact

 

[DaPhazz]

Nice signing Julien BriTAXESsebois !

 

[DaBolts]

How is Florida a great location for hockey? Anyone who claims TB has "great weather" has obviously never been to Tampa, the heat is unbearable.

The tax thing is just a massive cope from jealous fanboys. TB gets these deals because they've been the model organization in the sport since 2015. You don't see other no state tax teams getting discounts like this... I wonder why?

The heat is bearable, we have invented air conditioning.

However it is against the law in Florida to own one of these if you live below I-4:

 

[eramosat]

such a good contract for the player and the team both.

 

[Bob and 200 others]

The heat is bearable, we have invented air conditioning.

However it is against the law in Florida to own one of these if you live below I-4:

I lived there 20 years, it's unbearable!

 

[DaBolts]

I lived there 20 years, it's unbearable!

LOL, native here. Love it, hate freezing to death in January and HATED hitting a golf ball in sub 40 degree temps.

 

[TheGreenTBer]

I have nothing for or against Tampa but it's pretty amazing to see what can happen to a franchise when run properly.

I mean, they were the unwashed asscrack of the league at multiple points in their history. However, once the right owner came along, he hired an excellent front office and scouting staff, trusted them and stayed out of their way, and over time they've grown to become by far the NHL's best-run franchise. If there are any Lightning fans on this board that were following the team all the way back in 1992, you deserve every bit of the success your team is having.

People are going to bitch and moan about financial advantages, and some do exist, but Florida's tax code is not the reason the Lightning are the way they are. The Lightning are the Lightning because from a managerial standpoint they are easily the class of the NHL.

 

[jetsforever]

Good deal for both really

 

[GreatSaveEssensa]

This deal won't age well.

Why?

 

[DFC]

I think this deal was worked out two years ago, to be honest. This is the TB "core player" deal as of now. Kuch, Vasy, and now Point. Stamkos and Hedman missed out by being a bit older, but this is our ceiling deal, and I think all the players know it.

 

[Cyclones Rock]

Why?

I was just having fun

No matter what happens from this point forward it was a deal that the Lightning had to get done.

 

[DFC]

I have nothing for or against Tampa but it's pretty amazing to see what can happen to a franchise when run properly.

I mean, they were the unwashed asscrack of the league at multiple points in their history. However, once the right owner came along, he hired an excellent front office and scouting staff, trusted them and stayed out of their way, and over time they've grown to become by far the NHL's best-run franchise. If there are any Lightning fans on this board that were following the team all the way back in 1992, you deserve every bit of the success your team is having.

People are going to bitch and moan about financial advantages, and some do exist, but Florida's tax code is not the reason the Lightning are the way they are. The Lightning are the Lightning because from a managerial standpoint they are easily the class of the NHL.

I think a lot of it is the developmental staff. The reason we get ourselves into cap trouble is because, over the years, we've found a lot of diamonds in the rough and then polished the s*** out of them. And then we had to pay 4-5m to guys who, on a lot of teams, never would have made it past the AHL.

 

[BoltsOfAnarchy]

I have nothing for or against Tampa but it's pretty amazing to see what can happen to a franchise when run properly.

I mean, they were the unwashed asscrack of the league at multiple points in their history. However, once the right owner came along, he hired an excellent front office and scouting staff, trusted them and stayed out of their way, and over time they've grown to become by far the NHL's best-run franchise. If there are any Lightning fans on this board that were following the team all the way back in 1992, you deserve every bit of the success your team is having.

People are going to bitch and moan about financial advantages, and some do exist, but Florida's tax code is not the reason the Lightning are the way they are. The Lightning are the Lightning because from a managerial standpoint they are easily the class of the NHL.

could not agree more...thank you!

and some of us went thru some dark, pathetic years of hockey back in late 90's especially..... it's really been incredible to watch the transformation & Jeff Vinik is the man!