Transfer: Summer Transfer news and rumors discussion part 6

[YNWA14]

Is it though? Did anyone really believe that VVD was going to be that good? I don’t understand people saying that he shouldn’t be backed when the same exact people were saying that they needed to back a clearly past it Mou. The double standard for United is absolutely incredible. They can’t do anything right and they haven’t even officially signed the guy.

Most people considered van Dijk a top defender in the league before his move to Liverpool, yes.

Personally I love current United.

 

[hatterson]

Regarding van Dijk, I think pretty much everyone knew he was a top defender or would get there soon (top 3-5 in the pl) but that’s different than what he was last season.

Last year was player of the year caliber and perhaps the best defender in Europe.

 

[Chimaera]

The VVD comparison falls short in a number of ways, but I would be even more concerned when you consider it’s Edwards and Klopp compared with OGS and Woodward

 

[S E P H]

This is one of the most ridiculous transfer in football history. Easily.

You can thank your boy Neymar and the team of France in PSG with their blood money result in some of these crazy fees. Like that Maguire one is hilarious to see, 80m pounds and that's still 40 million over priced for someone of his qualities. United is pretty much paying 50% extra just because he's an English EPL player and teams have TV money.

Also Emery is a proven winner Evilo. Yeah I get it that he decided to turn into Blanc and lose in the CL. Yeah the Europa is a useless tournament for majority of the rounds, but the final four are normally always very strong teams thanks to the relegation from the CL. To make an excuse that he sucks when he won the Europa three years in a row....is not only wrong, but odd.

Meh, it probably still gets done. I haven't see any team around Arsenal's status close in wanting him so why not get him as cheap as possible...even if it takes some time.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I do find it weird that The Sun, The Express and a bunch of tabloids were the only ones reporting the Maguire deal and the NBC Sports did. I would assume NBC Sports definitely has sources but Simon Stone has said that no bid for Maguire has been sent. So I’m not entirely sure what to believe. I hope to f*** it ain’t true though.

 

[YNWA14]

Emery has his faults but isn't bad. For example he still has a better record with PSG than Tuchel, and Tuchel didn't have super Monaco or Barca to compete with (United ).

 

[Elliman]

Only homers would say it’s not an overpayment.

It might be where the market is, but it’s an overpayment for a decent player.

You can’t completely argue it until the clauses are shown, but it’s stupid money.

What is homers?

I agree that I wanna see the final transfer fee before making a judgement.

Also want to see Maguire play 1/4 of the season before I give a verdict.

He is capable of playing the ball out of the back as a centre back, who is strong and can tackle.

What’s the worst that could happen? Everyone is laughing at United now anyway. Maybe Maguire proves is worth. Let’s see.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

Barca got Umititi + Lenglet for less than Maguire...

 

[Jussi]

I do find it weird that The Sun, The Express and a bunch of tabloids were the only ones reporting the Maguire deal and the NBC Sports did. I would assume NBC Sports definitely has sources but Simon Stone has said that no bid for Maguire has been sent. So I’m not entirely sure what to believe. I hope to **** it ain’t true though.

Duncan Castles mentioned in the podcast about the 60+20 deal. I think he also mentioned a day earlier that United had upped their bid.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Duncan Castles mentioned in the podcast about the 60+20 deal. I think he also mentioned a day earlier that United had upped their bid.

He’s not that reliable. He was a bit of a mouthpiece for Mou but that’s about it.

 

[The Abusement Park]

What is homers?

I agree that I wanna see the final transfer fee before making a judgement.

Also want to see Maguire play 1/4 of the season before I give a verdict.

He is capable of playing the ball out of the back as a centre back, who is strong and can tackle.

What’s the worst that could happen? Everyone is laughing at United now anyway. Maybe Maguire proves is worth. Let’s see.

That we’re basically throwing 100 mil down the drain. That we’re spending 100mil on a center back that’s slightly above average when we could’ve gotten a better one in Koulibaly(who’s probably top 5 in the world) for ~10 extra mil. Or we could’ve bought Anderson from Sampdoria for 35mil or whatever Lyon just paid for someone who has a much higher ceiling than Maguire.

 

[Live in the Now]

The worst that could happen is that you bought him and he wound up like Sanchez where you could never get rid of him no matter how hard you tried. Another bad scenario is that he doesn't help the club and has to be replaced, but they've already blown a huge wad on him and the Glazers don't want to spend more. The latter is always a potential outcome.

So yes, it could actually turn out very badly.

 

[Evilo]

You can thank your boy Neymar and the team of France in PSG with their blood money result in some of these crazy fees. Like that Maguire one is hilarious to see, 80m pounds and that's still 40 million over priced for someone of his qualities. United is pretty much paying 50% extra just because he's an English EPL player and teams have TV money.

Also Emery is a proven winner Evilo. Yeah I get it that he decided to turn into Blanc and lose in the CL. Yeah the Europa is a useless tournament for majority of the rounds, but the final four are normally always very strong teams thanks to the relegation from the CL. To make an excuse that he sucks when he won the Europa three years in a row....is not only wrong, but odd.

Meh, it probably still gets done. I haven't see any team around Arsenal's status close in wanting him so why not get him as cheap as possible...even if it takes some time.

It's so sad.
United and Chelsea started overpaying way before PSG.
Neymar wasn't a transfer, it was a release clause.
Emery is a winner, only in the EL. You get what you deserve.

 

[Evilo]

Or we could’ve bought Anderson from Sampdoria for 35mil or whatever Lyon just paid for someone who has a much higher ceiling than Maguire.

30M. 1/3 of Maguire.

 

[Evilo]

Ohhhhhhh......




Dumbasses

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Alderweireld to Roma is heating up. Really did not expect him to take a step down. And are they really offering more money than Spurs already have done?

 

[Havre]

Not a bad place to live. If he can get a 4 year contract or something I could see why that would be interesting to him.

My guess there is a bit of loss of face going on. From both sides.

What surprises me is the lack of CDs linked to Spurs except for Saliba. What happens if Alderweireld leaves and Vertonghen gets injured? I'm sure in Pochettino's head Dier plays CD, but Sanchez - Dier is not something I'm looking forward to see.

Then again I would be willing to pay something for Zaniolo coming the other way. But then I would have brought in someone more experienced than Saliba to replace Alderweireld. Not sure who that would be at this point.

Certainly interesting days. Spurs would be ridiculously "loaded" with new young talents if Zaniolo and Saliba came in. And maybe it is time to get a bit younger again.

 

[koyvoo]

Tuttosport reporting that Torino have rejected a 60M offer from West Ham for Belotti and L’equipe reporting that Betis, Valencia and Sevilla are all heavily pursuing Fekir.

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Bouhafsi reports that Arsenal have matched Spurs offer for Saliba. Think he'll be going there to be honest.

Have a swing at Kamara instead Levy.

 

[Havre]

It depends. Saliba would know that Alderweireld will most likely be gone (if not now so next year). Vertonghen is old. The path is clear for a young guy to establish himself at Spurs. And far from a given that Sanchez will be good enough as well. I hope so and I believe so, but he still got a way to go.

And even if it is not supposed to work this way why would Spurs bother unless they had gotten some indications that he would be interested? My guess is that he will end up at Spurs, but obviously not certain it will happen.

 

[Evilo]

Bouhafsi reports that Arsenal have matched Spurs offer for Saliba. Think he'll be going there to be honest.

Have a swing at Kamara instead Levy.

Yep right now I'd abuse OM's financial situation. Kamara, Lopez can be had for peanuts (relatively).

 

[ecemleafs]

Meh, it probably still gets done. I haven't see any team around Arsenal's status close in wanting him so why not get him as cheap as possible...even if it takes some time.

Because tierney has not requested a transfer and he has 4 years left on his contract. Celtic apparently want 25 up front and addons. Arsenal bidding pennies are going to see them lose out on Tierney if they really want him. Pretty much every premier club can afford 25m these days. If u wanted Tierney cheap, this is the summer to do it, since he was injured for large portions of last season and he needed hernia surgery this summer.

 

[Evilo]

Former FM legend Oliver Torres has signed with Sevilla.

 

[Evilo]

Benjamin Lecomte to Monaco for 13M€. Subasic likely out, new goalie found.

 

[phisherman]

It depends. Saliba would know that Alderweireld will most likely be gone (if not now so next year). Vertonghen is old. The path is clear for a young guy to establish himself at Spurs. And far from a given that Sanchez will be good enough as well. I hope so and I believe so, but he still got a way to go.

And even if it is not supposed to work this way why would Spurs bother unless they had gotten some indications that he would be interested? My guess is that he will end up at Spurs, but obviously not certain it will happen.

The player wants to be loaned back to ASSE. And the path is more clear at Arsenal.

Yep right now I'd abuse OM's financial situation. Kamara, Lopez can be had for peanuts (relatively).

Has any team been linked to these players?