Confirmed Signing with Link: [STL] Mike Hoffman signs with the Blues (1 year, $4M)

[PoutineSp00nZ]

A little bizarre to think this is a significant factor with the public information that cast considerable doubt on the Karlsson’s version of events. There’s this local current event called a global pandemic that is much more likely to be dictating the one-year deal as being preferable for both parties. After reading several posts from you, you seem to have a personal grudge against Hoffman since you seem to ignore the most recent developments in that saga.

Obviously that plays a part, but plenty of other players were scooped up pretty quickly by other teams. Lots of money was handed out to free agents. Yet Hoffman gets 4 million for one season 2 weeks before training camp.

Weird that you'd think I have a personal issue with the guy. Lots of weird responses in here to something that seems rather obvious to me.

 

[Fatass]

A one year “show us you deserve more”deal?
Did Tofoli sign for more?

 

[Kaner9]

St. Louis is really changing things up with Krug and Hoffman but I like it. I dont care if hes a headache I lol watching Hoffman do his thing on the wing and cause coaches heartattacks.

 

[Mike Liut]

I like tougher more physical players on the Blues, but as long as he scores, I’ll take him.

 

[Sky04]

Obviously that plays a part, but plenty of other players were scooped up pretty quickly by other teams. Lots of money was handed out to free agents. Yet Hoffman gets 4 million for one season 2 weeks before training camp.

Weird that you'd think I have a personal issue with the guy. Lots of weird responses in here to something that seems rather obvious to me.

Hoffman was waiting to see if select teams could clear enough capspace to fit him this year. HE choose to wait it out to see his best options.

Or was that not obvious based on the insiders reporting it the entire summer or does your random narrative that Hoffman couldn't get any offers until this week somehow make more sense?

 

[Bourne Endeavor]

All these players who took 1 year deals are going to regret it down the line. They think they will cash in next summer but they won't. The league won't recover from covid for a few years, which means the cap will stay flat. Guys like Josh Anderson, TJ Brodie, Tyler Toffoli all made really smart moves.

Not necessarily. Say Hoffman has a banger of a year flanking ROR and Tarasenko. Teams will make room for him being dumping other players. Case in point, Vegas essentially gifting Vancouver Schmidt so they could sign Pietrangelo. That's what Hoffman is likely betting on. That, or he really only has a select few preferred destinations and hopes some of them will open up more next year.

 

[Oddbob]

What was the point of the PTO?

Can't sign him yet, cause they don't have the cap room, so they are hiding him with a PTO until the season starts.

 

[Hookslide]

You may not have wanted him but you can't deny 60+ points in 60 games. This just made blues that more dangerous.

there is another end of the ice that needs to be worked.

 

[Colt55]

there is another end of the ice that needs to be worked.

Yes and the blues are very good at that. One of the best defensive systems in the league. So adding offense to that doesn't really hurt it actually helps the offense out....

 

[Mike Liut]

there is another end of the ice that needs to be worked.

Tarasenko isn’t a defensive stalwart and the Blues won the cup with him.

 

[Colt55]

Tarasenko isn’t a defensive stalwart and the Blues won the cup with him.

Everyone seems to think 1 player can make or break a team. Yes 1 player can make a team better or worse, but the blues system doesn't rely on one player, its a team system. Thats even with out tarasenko they were division leaders last year.

 

[Got One Cup]

Everyone seems to think 1 player can make or break a team. Yes 1 player can make a team better or worse, but the blues system doesn't rely on one player, its a team system. Thats even with out tarasenko they were division leaders last year.

This team is totally different than the defensive system team that won the cup. We lost one of the best defensive dmen in the league. Adding Krug and Hoffman will help offensively no doubt but I’m curious to see how our defense will look.

 

[Mike Liut]

This team is totally different than the defensive system team that won the cup. We lost one of the best defensive dmen in the league. Adding Krug and Hoffman will help offensively no doubt but I’m curious to see how our defense will look.

The system will remain the same. Forcheck, backckeck, defense first, limiting shots and transition. The PP should be a strength, which is huge in the playoffs.

 

[SomeDude]

A one year “show us you deserve more”deal?
Did Tofoli sign for more?

"show us your wife isn't a problem" deal?

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Hoffman got burned bad here, but he isn't the only one thanks to this market.
He could easily fetch 6x7 if everything was normal. Such an underrated offensive player.

 

[Colt55]

This team is totally different than the defensive system team that won the cup. We lost one of the best defensive dmen in the league. Adding Krug and Hoffman will help offensively no doubt but I’m curious to see how our defense will look.

No petro was no the most defensive dman. Unless you mean Jaybo, I will give you that but he wasn't great till he was paired with parayko. Lets see how scandella does. Like I said it takes a team to play the way we do. Last year showed with tank, Jaybo going down the rest of the team stepped up. Like I said defense has gone down buy offense went way up. Lets give it a month or two before we start having doubts.

 

[HabsAddict]

Hoffman HAS to be lights out or his next contract will be worse then this one.

One of the issues I have with any player is that they are worth much less in my eyes if they can't play a 200 foot game. It makes no sense to score one...and soft play let's them score on his team. That's why someone like a Gainey's 25 goals are "worth" more then a 35 goal butterball who can't find his own end with a flashlight.

On the Hab's, Julien would probably bench Hoffman in close games.

 

[Vektor]

This team is totally different than the defensive system team that won the cup. We lost one of the best defensive dmen in the league. Adding Krug and Hoffman will help offensively no doubt but I’m curious to see how our defense will look.

Parayko is still on the team.

 

[Sky04]

Hoffman HAS to be lights out or his next contract will be worse then this one.

One of the issues I have with any player is that they are worth much less in my eyes if they can't play a 200 foot game. It makes no sense to score one...and soft play let's them score on his team. That's why someone like a Gainey's 25 goals are "worth" more then a 35 goal butterball who can't find his own end with a flashlight.

On the Hab's, Julien would probably bench Hoffman in close games.

Your coach plays Drouin, let's him make dumb plays all day and night unpunished, this is all fluff he ain't benching shit.

 

[yurnxt]

I have a strange feeling that Berube will browbeat many of the alleged defensive deficiencies out of Hoffman because he doesn't take kindly to folks who don't play the right way I.E. a 200 foot game.

 

[Xerloris]

I just want to bring up something I have been thinking about. Everyone claims to be worried about Colorado and we have proven over the last couple years that our defense first priority is barely hanging on against the Avs. Switching it up with Krug and Hoffman and going for a much more offensive team while still holding true to team defense could have some really interesting results when it comes to Colorado games. Might be some really entertaining games.

 

[Falco Lombardi]

I don’t see how they aren’t contenders.

Out

Pietrangelo + Steen

In

Krug + Hoffman

Blues obviously taking a big hit defensively but Krug and Hoffman are both powerplay studs and the Blues have zero holes and a pretty heavy forward lineup built around O’Reilly, Schenn and Perron. Add Thomas coming up and Hoffman I don’t see many better clubs in the west

Because our defense has taken a massive hit. That’s why they aren’t contenders.

We’re probably third in the West division this year and if the definition of contender is simply playoff team, then sure I guess.

But I don’t see a legit Cup contender unless someone surprises the hell out of me on the defensive side.

Still, it’s an excellent deal for the Blues and maybe it is the best option for Hoffman as well

 

[WATTAGE4451]

Because our defense has taken a massive hit. That’s why they aren’t contenders.

We’re probably third in the West division this year and if the definition of contender is simply playoff team, then sure I guess.

But I don’t see a legit Cup contender unless someone surprises the hell out of me on the defensive side.

Still, it’s an excellent deal for the Blues and maybe it is the best option for Hoffman as well

We downgraded petro to krug, yes, but we also replaced steen with hoffman and are otherwise the same team that led the nhl central division last year. Also so.e other guys like dunn and kyrou continue to grow with experience and maybe mikkola as well.

We will at least be making the playoffs.

 

[DingDongCharlie]

Because our defense has taken a massive hit. That’s why they aren’t contenders.

We’re probably third in the West division this year and if the definition of contender is simply playoff team, then sure I guess.

But I don’t see a legit Cup contender unless someone surprises the hell out of me on the defensive side.

Still, it’s an excellent deal for the Blues and maybe it is the best option for Hoffman as well

Losing Pietrangelo is huge but how many teams that ever lost someone that good had a Parayko waiting in the wings. Krug can’t replace Pietrangelo on D obviously but he’s easily one of the best offensive D in the league and having a Colton as his partner he’s gonna be dangerous

Most teams in the league would be envious of that pairing. I’d do cartwheels if Edmonton had them.

When I look at the Western clubs on paper only Colorado strikes me as better. Vegas and Dallas still up there. Dallas without Seguin healthy and their forward core getting on in years Radulov, Benn and Pavelski eventually the wheels fall off. Vegas still solid top end but slowly losing depth due to the cap. I don’t see who’s truly ahead outside of Colorado who I think is the best in the west

 

[Positive Vibes]

Your coach plays Drouin, let's him makes dumb plays all day and night unpunished, this is all fluff he ain't benching shit.

what