Movies: Star Wars - Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker - II

[bleedblue1223]

“The Force Awakens I think was the beginning of something quite solid, The Last Jedi if I'm being honest I'd say that was feeling a bit iffy for me,” Boyega says. “I didn't necessarily agree with a lot of the choices in that and that's something that spoke to Mark [Hamill] a lot about and we had conversations about it. And it was hard for all of us, because we were separated.”

John Boyega Is on His Own Hero’s Journey

 

[Outofbodyinhungary]

Do we think this movie will be more or less divisive than TLJ ?

 

[bleedblue1223]

Do we think this movie will be more or less divisive than TLJ ?

Considering it's JJ wrapping it all up, less divisive because more will agree it's not good. I like JJ to do films that are 7/10 that aren't bad and not great, but I don't trust him for a second to wrap up a series.

 

[x Tame Impala]

John Boyega Is on His Own Hero’s Journey

I remember people saying that Mark Hammill was just a whiny old actor for making similar comments at pressers during and after TLJ release. I wonder what people will say about Boyega

 

[OhCaptainMyCaptain]

More divisive among critics. Less divisive among fans, though barely. But less people will be angry at JJ, because people will just say it was bound to fail.

 

[Osprey]

I remember people saying that Mark Hammill was just a whiny old actor for making similar comments at pressers during and after TLJ release. I wonder what people will say about Boyega

For those who would rather not read the whole article, here are the quotes that you're likely referring to:

“The Force Awakens I think was the beginning of something quite solid, The Last Jedi if I'm being honest I'd say that was feeling a bit iffy for me,. I didn't necessarily agree with a lot of the choices in that and that's something that spoke to Mark [Hamill] a lot about and we had conversations about it. And it was hard for all of us, because we were separated.”

“I do feel even after three films still, we don't know [Rey, Poe and Finn] as much as we got to know Han, Luke, Leia. And maybe that's a great opportunity to get to know them a little bit more [in another film].”

 

[ArGarBarGar]

I remember people saying that Mark Hammill was just a whiny old actor for making similar comments at pressers during and after TLJ release. I wonder what people will say about Boyega

For the record I took it as an actor giving his opinion and not it being the end all be all of the discussion.

I like it when actors are candid about their roles and their characters, whether I agree with them or not.

 

[bleedblue1223]

I'll be curious how many of the cast didn't like or agree with TLJ. We probably will never really know because some will be afraid of damaging their career. Hamill is near the end and doesn't really do big work, and Boyega is a big Star Wars fan, so those 2 make sense.

His comment about not knowing the 3 main characters after 3 movies is pretty damning. That's really an epic failure, the goal had to of been to reboot the franchise and have the ST characters start to carry the brand.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Speaking of Boyega and Fin...

One of the cooler things I thought JJ did in TFA was introduce the concept that not all Stormtroopers were mindless clones trained to listen to the Empire. It was fun to see and I had hoped RJ was going to delve deeper into that a little more. RJ kind of went the other way with going deeper into Fin personally as a character. The casino world stuff fell flat for me but what RJ did towards the end with Fin sacrificing himself (almost) to save everyone was an awesome moment. It showed that he wasn't just thinking about himself, or Rey, or being afraid...but that he wanted to be a part of something bigger than himself. It was setting itself up to be an iconic Star Wars moment...and then we all know what happened.

I might be cashing out on caring about Rey and Kylo at this point but if nothing else i hope this third movie emphasizes Po and Finn a little more because they have the potential to be pretty memorable characters.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Yeah, the ST would be redeemed a bit in my mind if JJ does something good with the dynamic between the FO and child abduction. How did the FO get away with it for so long. Why did the New Republic not do anything about it or were they even aware? This is where people have a lot of issues with the PT because it required outside content fill in the blanks and have the movies make complete sense, but so far the ST is worse in this aspect. We don't need every detail, but that was an interesting dynamic that felt like something new that was pushed aside.

Maybe they could've had Finn be a bit more traumatized from what the FO did to him and have a bit of Stockholm syndrome.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Do we think this movie will be more or less divisive than TLJ ?

Just as much... because pretty much everything is in this day and age.

Add that it is Star Wars and you can do x10.

So yeah, it'll be unbearable and people will complain about the littlest of details... again.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Updated leaks by jedipaxis on r/StarWarsLeaks. I won't discuss or hint at any of them, but if you are interested, they are there.

 

[Very Stable Genius]

 

[Lt Dan]

Getting close. I have a little chubby going

 

[x Tame Impala]

Updated leaks by jedipaxis on r/StarWarsLeaks. I won't discuss or hint at any of them, but if you are interested, they are there.

Anything major from the last time we spoke? PM me the details please

 

[Shockmaster]

I'm not sure why people are quick to believe "leaks" considering how many ended up being fake for TLJ.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I'm not sure why people are quick to believe "leaks" considering how many ended up being fake for TLJ.

A lot of people didn't believe them until the trailer was released. That's when it became clear that they were, unfortunately, very accurate. I had read the supposed leaks because I was bored and wanted to see what the disaffected youth hoped the movie would be about, it was a good laugh then I became very sad once the trailer hit.

This is going to be a complete and utter disaster. Then we got some more "very end" leaks a few days ago and it just sounds like the movie culminates into a complete clusterf***. And I like TLJ a lot.

At least the battles should be great.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

I doubt it will be a cluster, but my main concern is it will be competent but utterly soulless, which will be possibly more disappointing.

I would prefer a PT schlocky mess that I can enjoy for the silly parts than something that is well-made but no heart.

 

[Do Make Say Think]

I doubt it will be a cluster, but my main concern is it will be competent but utterly soulless, which will be possibly more disappointing.

I would prefer a PT schlocky mess that I can enjoy for the silly parts than something that is well-made but no heart.

It will never cease to be incredible that Disney, the people who made the ten-year long Iron Man to Endgame Avengers/Superhero universe, managed to pull a Warner Bros./DC Comics with Star freaking Wars.

Disney execs are garbage

 

[OhCaptainMyCaptain]

It will never cease to be incredible that Disney, the people who made the ten-year long Iron Man to Endgame Avengers/Superhero universe, managed to pull a Warner Bros./DC Comics with Star freaking Wars.

Disney execs are garbage

Because they screwed up one property?

Calling Disney execs garbage this year is a weird take

 

[Do Make Say Think]

Because they screwed up one property?

Calling Disney execs garbage this year is a weird take

I'm not a shareholder, how much money they make overall doesn't matter to me whatsoever.

They screwed up something fierce on the creative side with these three movies, that's the side that should matter to regular people. Marvel is owned by Disney but had its infrastructure established prior to being bought so Disney execs don't get credit for not running them into the ground.

I guess brand identification matters more to fanboys. That's fair.

 

[OhCaptainMyCaptain]

I'm not a shareholder, how much money they make overall doesn't matter to me whatsoever.

They screwed up something fierce on the creative side with these three movies, that's the side that should matter to regular people.

I never said it had to matter to you. And I acknowledge they messed this up. But that doesn't mean their execs are garbage.

Whether it impacts you or not, the execs at Disney (or any company) are there to help make the company money... and that's what they have done. So you can fairly criticize their mishandling of Star Wars, but that one slip up doesn't make them garbage execs.

 

[ArGarBarGar]

A chunk of Marvel films actually fall in with my "competent but soulless" category. I think they do a good job of telling the story they want to tell, but I don't particularly find them worth watching again because I don't get much from them, save a few (GOTG 1&2, Thor Ragnorak being notable examples).

 

[Do Make Say Think]

A chunk of Marvel films actually fall in with my "competent but soulless" category. I think they do a good job of telling the story they want to tell, but I don't particularly find them worth watching again because I don't get much from them, save a few (GOTG 1&2, Thor Ragnorak being notable examples).

Agreed that most of the Marvel movies are boring and safe but the whole "building up to Infinity War/Endgame" was very well done. They had a plan for the MCU while the Disney execs in charge of Star Wars just decided "lol, license to print money, we don't need to work on making this as good as it could be".

 

[bleedblue1223]

I'm not sure why people are quick to believe "leaks" considering how many ended up being fake for TLJ.

Different directors and teams. TFA was leaked, and it's not uncommon, many Marvel and GoT were leaked too.