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I get it but that's one example..there isn't many other examples where a young player has "lead" their team and I personally don't believe it's a good example. I have never been a fan of DiPietro either.
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I get it but that's one example..there isn't many other examples where a young player has "lead" their team and I personally don't believe it's a good example. I have never been a fan of DiPietro either.
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Yeah I agree with this. If I were to count that's how I'd do it. Based on games played.
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Love itI don't know why you guys don't just consult the pizza guy - he probably has accurate numbers.
Dipietro obviously had some talent to be called to Vancouver to play whilst still in Windsor over ECHL AHL back ups. But I digress on this point. I was more countering the trash season label you gave them.
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Yeah I didn't mean from top to bottom trash but it was a failure(regular season playoff push) and although it is an example of a 17 year old leading them to success had they not been the host team...they would have saw a first round exit and that's the end of it. Shouldn't have just flat out said TRASH hahaha!
DiPietro has talent but I believe hes far away from being a number one NHL goalie too.
Back to my original point. The west was an extremely strong conference that year and high competitive and almost even 1st to 5th place. Dipietro didn’t lead the team as the host to win the Memorial Cup. The acquisitions they made by the deadline. Jeremy Bracco, Sean Day. Not to mention players they already had in Mikhail Sergachev, Logan Stanley, Connor Corcoran, Austin McEneny, Mario Culjna as a backup, Luke Boca, Aaron luchuk, Gabriel Villardi, Jeremiah Addison, Cole Purboo. Dude that roster was stacked to the T’s. The line up was riddled with injuries all year long. The team could’ve easily been 100+ points. But placed 5th. Had they placed higher they may have gone to the conference finals and gave Erie a run for their money. As London did. The team was far from trash. Highly competitive west put them up against a very strong London a team and they came out on the bottom end.
Edit: and no ones making the argument that he’s a #1 NHL goalie. He’s far too young for that title if he ever gets it. He’s not seasoned. For the OHL. He had that edge up over most goalies in the league. He was top tier talent which is why he, of all of Vancouver’s goalie options in pro, was picked to replace an injury. Which he did play... 2 games maybe? 1 for sure.
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This is not a new concept - Read the book, Outliers by Gladwell. The first story of the book is about this very topic.
Was not called up from Windsor
Vancouver did not have 2 healthy goalies under NHL contract in any pro leagues (NHL, AHL, ECHL) and had to exercise an emergency clause to call him up from Ottawa 67's. This was 2 years after the Windsor run.
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If I'm not mistaken he was actually called up from the 67"s after the trade to them.
He's on the NHL roster but he isn't playing. Arizona's handling of him is very puzzling and bad for his development. I wish that they would let him play, either in the NHL or the OHL.
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Is Rasmus Kupari no longer protected? I see he is playing for the Ontario Reign. Isn't he only 18! Would love the Wolves to try and deal for his rights since we have an open import spot. I also see Kakko from the NYR not lasting past his 10 games. Where will he go? I don't see a CHL team that holds his rights. Some interesting imports out there still.
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Agreed. Sportswriter Craig Morgan tweeted the following earlier today: "Darcy Kuemper starts in goal tonight for the Coyotes against the New York Islanders at Nassau Coliseum. No lineup changes, but coach Rick Tocchet said he is strongly considering putting Barrett Hayton in the lineup on Friday against the New Jersey Devils."
Arizona is probably doing the right thing. Why send him to the OHL to stagnate, like some others before him? I’m sure Arizona remembers how it did not expedite Strome’s development. Hayton will learn plenty practising with pros.
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Kupari was drafted out of Europe, therefore the CHL agreement doesn't count for him. He can play AHL/ECHL at 18 if the Kings want.
Filip Zadina and Rasmus Sandin were drafted out of CHL but were technically on loan to the CHL clubs from their teams overseas, therefore allowing them to also play AHL at 18 years old. Some loop holes in there, but basically it only counts for true CHL players like Hayton.. Hence why he's stuck riding the pine or playing rather than being sent to the A.
Yeah the right thing him not playing is really helping his development, and practicing is not the same as game action and does nothing to further his development, at least in junior he would be playing 25 plus minutes a night then world Juniors and then possibly if they decided to trade him to a legitimate contender the possibility of winning the league title then playing in the memorial cup. Just my opinion
Right, just your opinion; like mine.
I think his practices are more challenging than OHL competition; especially if he gets dealt to a loaded contender facing seller teams.
My guess is he stays with the Coyotes until WJC before a final decision is made.
I never said that they should send him to the OHL. Even if they did, it's doubtful that the Greyhounds would trade him. Unless I missed someone, the Hounds haven't sold off a major piece at the deadline since Brett Thompson in 2011.
I disagree that practicing and not playing with the NHL team is the right way to develop a player. I think he needs to see some serious NHL ice time with good linemates.
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