ProspectsFanatic
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Hopefully, we can come to a close, which I expect it to be of agreeing to disagree, I guess I will give you my brief answers/precisions to make sure understand each other point of view well before coming to a close.
1) Still, I meant the gap won't ever be that large.
2) I don't doubt that he shoots from all angles, but not to the point of frequency of a 300 shots NHL player factoring the number of opportunities he will have; to shoot 300 times would mean to shoot as often as Gallagher, and he isn't that type of player, he waits more often for the right opportunities. Nor does he have that bomb to play like a Seguin or Ovechkin either.
I think Kaliyev blast is on another dimension that's why they don't compare that well and I don't see any restricting factor preventing that slapper going in on an NHL PP a few years from now. Obviously, Kaliyev has his own downsides, like I indeed do not doubt that Caufield is vastly less of floater than Kaliyev.
No doubt Caufield is good at presenting himself as a shooting option, that being said, it is still relevant to point how abnormally easy it was to obtain good shooting opportunities playing along Hughes and that USDP squad. The NHL distinguishes himself especially from junior leagues in how tight defensive coverage are, how many good shooting chances will he get per game at the NHL level? This will lead to how many goals?
Not elite in everything but I believe it is the cruel way you need to look at it in order project correctly. If he was a speedster or a very good playmaker, it would make a big difference in how he projects, being a diminutive sniper makes him too one-dimensional (adding to the fact that his shot power isn't something special in NHL terms).
Yeah, Debrincat succeeded, we know the success stories. How does he compare at the same age than guys like Shinkaruk, Petan, and Bracco? Bracco, maybe Petan, might pan out to something but we aren't talking of top10 talent here. How much better is he than a player like Taylor Cammarata with 93 USHL points DY or Tyler Kelleher who lead the USDP17/18 in points? Yeah, Caufield is likely better but by how much? Someone could have argued that for Cammarata you could discount 50% of what he does in the USHL in terms of NHL projection and still succeed in the NHL, it is simply so much harder for 5'7 players game to translate from junior to the NHL. With everything I mentioned, there is no indication he is some surefire thing, that you could overlook his size deficit since his skills are so out of the ordinary that it makes him worthy to be a top10 talent.
How much do you think he scores on an average OHL first line? I am very intrigued by that.
1) Still, I meant the gap won't ever be that large.
2) I don't doubt that he shoots from all angles, but not to the point of frequency of a 300 shots NHL player factoring the number of opportunities he will have; to shoot 300 times would mean to shoot as often as Gallagher, and he isn't that type of player, he waits more often for the right opportunities. Nor does he have that bomb to play like a Seguin or Ovechkin either.
I think Kaliyev blast is on another dimension that's why they don't compare that well and I don't see any restricting factor preventing that slapper going in on an NHL PP a few years from now. Obviously, Kaliyev has his own downsides, like I indeed do not doubt that Caufield is vastly less of floater than Kaliyev.
No doubt Caufield is good at presenting himself as a shooting option, that being said, it is still relevant to point how abnormally easy it was to obtain good shooting opportunities playing along Hughes and that USDP squad. The NHL distinguishes himself especially from junior leagues in how tight defensive coverage are, how many good shooting chances will he get per game at the NHL level? This will lead to how many goals?
I feel like saying that everything needs to be elite for a 5'7 player is just charging a prospect for the same things multiple times. IMO, one gets to ding a prospect for being 5'7 once.
Not elite in everything but I believe it is the cruel way you need to look at it in order project correctly. If he was a speedster or a very good playmaker, it would make a big difference in how he projects, being a diminutive sniper makes him too one-dimensional (adding to the fact that his shot power isn't something special in NHL terms).
Yeah, Debrincat succeeded, we know the success stories. How does he compare at the same age than guys like Shinkaruk, Petan, and Bracco? Bracco, maybe Petan, might pan out to something but we aren't talking of top10 talent here. How much better is he than a player like Taylor Cammarata with 93 USHL points DY or Tyler Kelleher who lead the USDP17/18 in points? Yeah, Caufield is likely better but by how much? Someone could have argued that for Cammarata you could discount 50% of what he does in the USHL in terms of NHL projection and still succeed in the NHL, it is simply so much harder for 5'7 players game to translate from junior to the NHL. With everything I mentioned, there is no indication he is some surefire thing, that you could overlook his size deficit since his skills are so out of the ordinary that it makes him worthy to be a top10 talent.
How much do you think he scores on an average OHL first line? I am very intrigued by that.
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