Zybalto
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I don’t think Jake even leads the Leafs in turnovers?
Most giveaways/60 on the Leafs top 4:
1. Rielly 3.6
2. Hainsey 3.3
3. Zaitsev 3.2
4. Gards 2.7
I don’t think Jake even leads the Leafs in turnovers?
We have a shot at a cup. Please tell me people are not going to want us to trade a top 4 D for futures.
This all looks nice, but let’s be straight here.. Dermott is not even close to Jake right now. Despite you never liking him, the fact he couldMy take is simple.
I have never liked Gardiner, but I respect what he can bring offensively. To me it is a no brainer that while we have the Cap this year we keep him and try and make an add for a RHD. Let's say Petro.(love this guy)
You get Petro and you go for the cup and then you move Jake for whatever and you keep Petro. Next year you have
Morgan-Petro
Dermott-Zaitsev
and who knows?
If we can 1 year Hainsey cheap you bring him back for the 2nd pair and let camp and nature sort out the rest.
Sure but if we pay Jake we never put money in a RHD. Dermott is not Jake, I get that and if he's not ready you have other options but if I'm choosing between Jake and Petro it's no debate, to me.This all looks nice, but let’s be straight here.. Dermott is not even close to Jake right now. Despite you never liking him, the fact he could
maybe go 7mill+ somewhere alone shows how much the league values him over a guy like Dermott.
This all looks nice, but let’s be straight here.. Dermott is not even close to Jake right now. Despite you never liking him, the fact he could
maybe go 7mill+ somewhere alone shows how much the league values him over a guy like Dermott.
Gards is now 3rd best in the league in goals allowed per 60 among top 4 Dman since Oct 17 behind Zaitsev and Carlo (Shattenkirk this season plays 3rd league minutes with the Rangers); Gards was even #1 on the list prior to his awful 1st period against Det. Also this isn't just a new occurrence, Gardiners' goals against numbers has always been stellar since the Leafs became a playoff team in 2016.So, you are denying that he is responsible for a couple of terrible giveaways almost every game?
Sure, I exaggerated somewhat, but, he does contribute to our goals against all too often for my liking.
I'm willing to listen to anyone that has statistics to prove he is worth more to our team than his brain farts seem to indicate.
My take is simple.
I have never liked Gardiner, but I respect what he can bring offensively. To me it is a no brainer that while we have the Cap this year we keep him and try and make an add for a RHD. Let's say Petro.(love this guy)
You get Petro and you go for the cup and then you move Jake for whatever and you keep Petro. Next year you have
Morgan-Petro
Dermott-Zaitsev
and who knows?
If we can 1 year Hainsey cheap you bring him back for the 2nd pair and let camp and nature sort out the rest.
Heh, well I'm cheap. To me neither of our 2 goalie prospects or 1rst round d-man should be on the table.But what do you give for Petro?
We have a shot at a cup. Please tell me people are not going to want us to trade a top 4 D for futures.
What do the top 4 dmen get traded for at the deadline? Futures
What would we get for gardiner? Futures
Let’s put 2 and 2 together oh we can upgrade gardiner using the package we got for gardiner plus? Sign me up
Unfortunately There are a LOT of dumb people in this fanbase
What do the top 4 dmen get traded for at the deadline? Futures
What would we get for gardiner? Futures
Let’s put 2 and 2 together oh we can upgrade gardiner using the package we got for gardiner plus? Sign me up
My god, 52 years without a finals appearance and we are giving up and trading a top 4 UFA D with the 2nd best record in the NHL.
I will enjoy the "We Are Not Good Enough" replies when an expansion team made the finals last year.