Eklund Rumor: Sergachev for Bouchard (MOD warning in OP)

[KingsOfCali25]

Top-2 and Top-4 D-men are very precious assets. McDonagh is not getting younger.

Correct but how does Tampa move any of those guys (even if they agree to wave their NTC/NMC) if the teams they will wave to can't afford them without cap going back. Which means you'd still have to move more salary to sign those precious assets. No one is gonna want or can afford to take McDonagh being 31 with 6 years left @6.75m.

With Tampa already having a great D-core; moving someone like Sergachev won't hurt as much and the incredible assets that would come back to Tampa in a trade would most likely be worth it. Trade from a strength for weakness. Tampa is a good team because they have great depth. Trading someone like Sergachev helps keep that depth alive and well as the assets from the trade keep that going.

 

[DFC]

Johnson, Gourde, Palat or Killorn will all go before they touch Sergachev. Cernak and Cirelli are good young (affordable) guys to keep.

NTCs are a real thing though. The first three names on your list have them, and I don't see anyone waiving. Honestly, I don't think we'd trade Palat with a gun to our head.

To me, of the RFAs, Cirelli is the guy to go. If there's absolutely no way out of it. Cernak is cheaper, and losing him would create a big hole on the right side. Cirelli is the better player, no doubt, but the money could get tricky, and he wasn't exactly instrumental in our cup run (likely injured), so it's not like we couldn't do it again without him. That said, we would need a huge return, and teams would/should line up to make offers.

Sergachev is just a no go. I doubt we've seriously entertained a single offer for him.

 

[1909]

Correct but how does Tampa move any of those guys (even if they agree to wave their NTC/NMC) if the teams they will wave to can't afford them without cap going back. Which means you'd still have to move more salary to sign those precious assets. No one is gonna want or can afford to take McDonagh being 31 with 6 years left @6.75m.

With Tampa already having a great D-core; moving someone like Sergachev won't hurt as much and the incredible assets that would come back to Tampa in a trade would most likely be worth it. Trade from a strength for weakness. Tampa is a good team because they have great depth. Trading someone like Sergachev helps keep that depth alive and well as the assets from the trade keep that going.

I can understand that NHL-COVID 19 era would complicate trades because lots of organisations have low revenues and financial capabilities. TB would have to trade Sergachev for a guy like Lafrenière. Rangers have cap space and are a rich team.

 

[KingsOfCali25]

I can understand that NHL-COVID 19 era would complicate trades because lots of organisations have low revenues and financial capabilities. TB would have to trade Sergachev for a guy like Lafrenière. Rangers have cap space and are a rich team.

There is no way in hell Tampa would get someone like Lafreniere. Knowing Tampa is in a cap crunch; other GMs are definitely going to be squeezing the trades with teams with high cap. LA is a team that has cap and assets for Sergachev but they also an internal cap because of Covid taking fans away and not earning that extra revenue. Trades are gonna be crazy an lopsided this offseason and next.

Edit: teams will also have to take into account the Expansion draft next season while making these moves. There are way to many factors that will screw over cap strapped teams.

 

[wetcoast]

He just didn't include the other pieces in the deal. Bouchard, 14th and Lavoie for Sergachev and one of their dumps( Johnson, Palat or Gourde)

I like Sergachev but that is way too much for him unless the salary dump is a guy the Oilers really like Palat who has 2 years left.

Gourde is paid too much for too long and Johnson looks like he is falling off the cliff extremely fast.

 

[Volodya Krutov]

TB isn't trading Sergachev. I think we would lose Cernak and Cirelli as a pair before we gave him up.

Of course he's not going anywhere, Sergachev's on the verge of becoming a core player, and at 22, he'll only get better. BriseBois will explore all possible option not called Point, Vasilevskiy, Stamkos, Kucherov and Hedman before dumping a young stud dman for cap-saving purpose, whatever the return is. Heck, McDonagh has a better chance to go than Sergachev.

 

[McVespa99]

I've seen expansion mentioned a few times who is Edmonton protecting? I see McDavid, Draisaitl, Yamamoto, Nurse, Klefblom, Bear so far. RNH is a UFA so you could expose him. There's still spots open for 2 more if you go 8 skaters.

They are apparently working on a long term deal wth Nuge right now so add him. Also Larson and Jones.

 

[yababy]

That would be a huge steal for the Oilers!
Bouchard kind of sucks

that’s why he’s ranked as the 4th best defensive prospect not in the NHL?

Not sure why the Oilers do this. I think Bouchard out produces Sergachev as a rookie

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Sergachev isn't getting full value in a trade. Tampa wants salary help? f***'em.

This is just false and so far from accurate. If Sergachev hits the market he will get overpaid for.

 

[McJedi]

that’s why he’s ranked as the 4th best defensive prospect not in the NHL?

Not sure why the Oilers do this. I think Bouchard out produces Sergachev as a rookie

Sportsnet threw some shade on Bouchard in their most recent article about the Oil. Questioning his development. Made him sound like a stagnating prospect.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

Sportsnet threw some shade on Bouchard in their most recent article about the Oil. Questioning his development. Made him sound like a stagnating prospect.

Second on his team in scoring in the tier 2 swedish league = stagnated?

 

[Mr Positive]

I got to hand it to Eklund. This is a smart trade idea. The Oilers are overloaded at RHD, making it hard for Bouchard to break in atm. Klefboms injury opens up a LHD spot, and gives cap space.

Bouchard is a blue chip prospect so if they need to give up Sergachev, it's good to get an ultra talented, cost controlled asset

 

[themelkman]

I got to hand it to Eklund. This is a smart trade idea. The Oilers are overloaded at RHD, making it hard for Bouchard to break in atm. Klefboms injury opens up a LHD spot, and gives cap space.

Bouchard is a blue chip prospect so if they need to give up Sergachev, it's good to get an ultra talented, cost controlled asset

I think from an oilers perspective its a no brainer. However im willing to bet tampa would much rather get rid of Cirelli and Cernak before Sergachev because your probably losing a Sergachev trade hard no matter what

 

[Mr Positive]

I think from an oilers perspective its a no brainer. However im willing to bet tampa would much rather get rid of Cirelli and Cernak before Sergachev because your probably losing a Sergachev trade hard no matter what

Sergachev might also be insistent on a big raise, and maybe Cernak and Cirelli would take a shorter bridge.

But yeah I doubt Eklund would know any of that.

 

[Mr Positive]

Fyi Sergachev was who the Oilers were going to draft before Puljujarvi surprisingly became available. That's what our media people were implying. So again it's a fun suggestion from Eklund

 

[AnInjuredJasonZucker]

Sportsnet threw some shade on Bouchard in their most recent article about the Oil. Questioning his development. Made him sound like a stagnating prospect.

I think some people are getting confused due to Broberg exceeding all expectations. He may have passed Bouchard, but that should be a positive reflection on Broberg, not a negative reflection on Bouchard.

 

[Roof Daddy]

The Devils should offer sheet Sergachev. 4 years x 6.5 mil per. Cost in compo is only a 1st and 3rd. I don’t know that Tampa could match that. There’s not much shuffling they could do to fit him in with all the NTC’s on that roster. And the picks could be appealing enough vs the cap gymnastics they’d have to perform to even attempt to fit another 6.5 mil on the roster.

Serg gets a nice pay day AND hits UFA status at the the earliest opportunity.

 

[34]

No way Tampa does that. They get hosed.

 

[Mr Positive]

No way Tampa does that. They get hosed.

And Vegas would never trade Schmidt for a 3rd

 

[Balthazar]

No way Tampa does that. They get hosed.

Bet they'll actually do far worse than that just to get out of cap hell.

 

[Balthazar]

Second on his team in scoring in the tier 2 swedish league = stagnated?

The selling point when he got drafted was that he was mature physically and either NHL ready or close to.

No one here can say that the following months/years went as expected. He might get to destination but so far he's behind schedule.

 

[Tobias Kahun]

The selling point when he got drafted was that he was mature physically and either NHL ready or close to.

No one here can say that the following months/years went as expected. He might get to destination but so far he's behind schedule.

Yeah, couldn't even make the NHL this year, had to go to Sweden.

His development has been just fine. Got a taste of the NHL after being drafted, wen't back to dominating the OHL, and had a very good rookie pro season in the AHL.

 

[Djp]

I got to hand it to Eklund. This is a smart trade idea. The Oilers are overloaded at RHD, making it hard for Bouchard to break in atm. Klefboms injury opens up a LHD spot, and gives cap space.

Bouchard is a blue chip prospect so if they need to give up Sergachev, it's good to get an ultra talented, cost controlled asset

eklund read it on these boards.

I sndothers have said they trade Sergashev for a strong prospect starting an ELC

 

[BB06]

I think it's fair considering what the market is. Tampa won't find a better deal out there.

 

[Mick Jagr]

Johnson is a pure cap dump at this point. Palat and Gourde are still valuable pieces but NTC's are gonna have them tough to move.

Who wants to pay Gourde 5 mil per? He was solid in the playoffs, but he's overpaid by a good 2 million.