Sens of Anarchy
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OT: Sens Lounge CVI - The O & D Edition
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AchtzehnBaby
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So many "reputable" places do shit you wouldn't believe. It's really disheartening when you consider what you don't see behind the scenes.
Sens of Anarchy
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There is such a thing as over zealous law enforcement performed by people lacking in emotional intelligence.
On their own porch
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There was an article, i think it was on Vox, documenting law enforcement targetting clearly identified journalists with non lethal measures like rubber bullets and tear gas.
Just found the tweet but it has a pretty graphic pic, so I'll direct link the article
Police targeted journalists covering the George Floyd protests
Pretty messed up stuff.
I have to admit I get a sense of nostalgia and even a little tingly excitement, seeing the young people in the states rise up for injustice, a lot like the boomers they often rail against did back in the 60’s and 70’s in that tumultuous time of protest.. That seemed more a generational battle back then than political. Don’t trust anyone over 30. Instead of 12 it was the pigs. The music such a big part of the time. Yet it is also disheartening to see some of the same battles as decades ago playing out again.
Even seems so long ago the parkland kids and the gun issue were front and centre politically in the states. Hopefully this generation can overcome ‘the man’ as the boomers were apparently unable to do as well as they hoped. The struggle may define them as a great generation. It can often make for a great new music scene. From one generation to the next, carry on the fight. Peace, love, dope and power to the people man
Even seems so long ago the parkland kids and the gun issue were front and centre politically in the states. Hopefully this generation can overcome ‘the man’ as the boomers were apparently unable to do as well as they hoped. The struggle may define them as a great generation. It can often make for a great new music scene. From one generation to the next, carry on the fight. Peace, love, dope and power to the people man
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Congrats! It’s boring or it’s stressful. No in between.
Just kidding. Enjoy the Florida. No more winters!
Thanks! Hoping for a bit more boring than stressful this time around. But I imagine I’ll still be working pretty hard.
I will not miss the cold weather, that’s for sure. Nor will I miss NY state income tax or the NYC rental market.
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Savor all the American freedom the self-proclaimed patriots talk about.
Seriously....I'm amazed the USA hasn't self-destructed yet. If they aren't working people to death, or chaining to ruthless employers to get that golden (and stupidly expensive) healthcare coverage, or using Americana propaganda to get teenagers to put on a uniform and die on the other side of the planet so rich bastards can get even more rich, they're acting like the gestapo on their own people. And they honestly think they have the best country in the world. If you're not rich, the USA is s shitshow.
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Police have always targetted anyone attempting to document their actions. Used to be they'd just break/confiscate/de-film your camera and probably take you in to boot. These days with everyone having a camera phone it makes it a lot harder for them to so, not that they don't try
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Sure, but it seems to have gotten more extreme (or perhaps just more likely to be caught on film i guess).
Probably doesn't help when a certain prominent figure labels them enemy of the people every time he doesn't like coverage
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My suggestion was that it is just more likely to be caught on film, but I suppose you can take it from a different angle and say that with more people able to record, the absolute numbers are probably higher as well. As a policy though, it's always been the same, just not as many people were exposed to it unless they were the ones trying to take the pictures.
... I had to read the second part a couple times to realise you are referring more to police treating representatives of "official" media the same way. Yes, I would agree that this seems to have been rising, but I would attest it in part again to there being so much higher access to recording technology - used to be a lot bigger deal for a media outlet to choose to send a photog/camera crew to a specific event. At the same time I think major media used to toe the line a lot more, there was more of an understanding that they were going to present the official view on something so they were tolerated. The democratisation of media and critical voices within it has led police to reassess who is friend and who foe. Yes, certain rhetoric doesn't help with that
I don't know if has been posted already - TVO put out a great documentary a week ago called The Arrest where they interview people wrongfully arrested and experts and go into detail about how lives can be forever altered by the legal system.
Up until a couple of years ago an arrest would show up on a background check. So the police arrest and release you. You have a record even if you were innocent and charges were dropped.
Up until a couple of years ago an arrest would show up on a background check. So the police arrest and release you. You have a record even if you were innocent and charges were dropped.
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I know this is out of left field, but i never understood the back to the future movies. Don't get wrong, i love back to the future, but they don't make any sense,
Especially the 2nd and 3rd ones. Why does Marty and doc have to go to the future to fix his kids?
Considering doc says this in the 3rd one" "Your future hasn't been written yet. No one's has. Your future is what ever you make it. So make it a good one!"
So why again did they have to go to the future if the future hasn't been written yet?
Especially the 2nd and 3rd ones. Why does Marty and doc have to go to the future to fix his kids?
Considering doc says this in the 3rd one" "Your future hasn't been written yet. No one's has. Your future is what ever you make it. So make it a good one!"
So why again did they have to go to the future if the future hasn't been written yet?
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You could make the argument that by initiating the event shift too far before it happens you can't be certain things will change. You would need to do so just before it happens to make sure it's done properly.
Although the ending of the series mixes its messages. Doc Brown wishes he had never invented the time machine, so we're supposed to believe he regrets messing around in time. Then he immediately builds a train time machine. This should really be considered a downer ending as he refuses to learn from his mistakes.
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But this assumes the future is already written. In the 3rd movie, doc says the future hasn't been written yet.
If anything, it is not consistent storytelling.
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Marty's "You're Fired!" note also gets erased, so clearly they shook up more than expected.
I guess it was sort of an unspoken agreement that provided they don't look into it, then yes anything can happen.
Starting with the second one there are some . . . Interesting discrepancies. Worst offender is when Biff steals the time machine to give young Biff the almanac and then returns it to the same 2015 that Doc and Marty were in. Going by the logic of the series it would have been a totally different 2015 where Biff was an old casino mogul, not a washed up town geezer.
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It's also patently false because at the end of the second movie, the third one had in fact already been written and even shot by the time II came out. I guess technically he could've changed his tune on it because at THAT point, in the third movie, the future had NO LONGER been written.
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Has that been changed then?
I was arrested (without cause) at a protest in Toronto back in 2000. Actually it was after the protest, we were all on a bus waiting to go back to Kingston and they just pulled me off it randomly, stuck me in the back of a sweltering police truck with a bunch of other people who thought I was a narc because I wasn't bleeding and didn't have handcuffs, took me to the station, stripsearched, lied and demeaned me for a while, stole the film out of my camera and when I asked about it just threatened to re-arrest me, and I ended up stranded in Toronto with a couple bucks in my pocket and no way home and work to go to the next day.
I had always figured I'd have a black mark because of it even though I'd done absolutely nothing wrong and was released without charges. When they were releasing me the cop even told me that I wasn't welcome in Toronto anymore and if he saw me there he'd target me specifically. He also told me if I had such a problem with things in Canada that I had to protest against them I should just go live somewhere else. So in the end I did.
Anyhow, for the police anyone at any protest is garbage, less than human. They do not recognise that there is an actual democratic right to protest. They don't actually recognise a lot of laws period, they have their own particular idea of what public order should look like and enforce that without regard for the rights of others and use intimidation and the blue wall to avoid responsibility for their actions. But whatever, I still treat them with respect because I'm a good Christian boy.
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Is this the definition of irony?
'They turned holy ground into a battleground': clergy teargassed by Washington police
Clergy got tear gased to clear peaceful protesters from the path for a gov't photo op in front of a church....
'They turned holy ground into a battleground': clergy teargassed by Washington police
Clergy got tear gased to clear peaceful protesters from the path for a gov't photo op in front of a church....
Stylizer1
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Don't know if the media is reporting this but
Cops have been known to infiltrate these types of protests to cause trouble.
Cops have been known to infiltrate these types of protests to cause trouble.
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