Rumor: Rumors and Proposals Thread | OE L Yes?

[Rufus Aslegard]

How do I delete someone else's post?

it’s called the ignore button

but then you miss the opportunity for a good laugh

 

[Tobias Kahun]

I'm gonna frame this and stick it to my wall.

Should it go beside his quote of Reinhart being a top 4 D man.

 

[McTonyBrar]

I would legitimately trade McDavid over Draisaitl right now.

I thought you lost it when you said Reinhart is a great dman



You have completely lost it now

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

I just want a PP DMAN. It opens up so many options for us.

Seems like exactly the last thing we need, Klefbom was tied for 12th in the league in PP points for d-men (25th in PP points/60). Obviously our PP was on the higher end with the talent we have up front and I'm sure a PP specialist could do even better, I know most people want the upgrade cause Klefbom big shot disappeared and they want a threat to score from the blueline, but even a high end powerplay d-man nets about 5 PP goals per season (Klefbom had 2 in a shortened season) are we going to spend 5+ million to chase 3 more PP goals. We also have internal replacements for Klef on the PP in Bouchard and Bear who can legitimately fight for the spot.

 

[Smartguy]

Seems like exactly the last thing we need, Klefbom was tied for 12th in the league in PP points for d-men (25th in PP points/60). Obviously our PP was on the higher end with the talent we have up front and I'm sure a PP specialist could do even better, I know most people want the upgrade cause Klefbom big shot disappeared and they want a threat to score from the blueline, but even a high end powerplay d-man nets about 5 PP goals per season (Klefbom had 2 in a shortened season) are we going to spend 5+ million to chase 3 more PP goals. We also have internal replacements for Klef on the PP in Bouchard and Bear who can legitimately fight for the spot.

I’ve said this before in here, Tippett has said in the past that he keeps Klefbom on PP1 because that’s what Mcdavid/Drai want. Klefbom is predictable and Mcdavid is the quarterback unlike most teams who use the D. The PP isn’t built around collapsing on a big shot from the point, it’s built on the cross ice passes for the most part.

Also does other poster not realize the PP was literally borderline record setting this past year? Why would you change anything about it

 

[Rufus Aslegard]

I’ve said this before in here, Tippett has said in the past that he keeps Klefbom on PP1 because that’s what Mcdavid/Drai want. Klefbom is predictable and Mcdavid is the quarterback unlike most teams who use the D. The PP isn’t built around collapsing on a big shot from the point, it’s built on the cross ice passes for the most part.

Also does other poster not realize the PP was literally borderline record setting this past year? Why would you change anything about it

PP QB is not the need - a good puck retrieving d-man who can get control of the puck quickly and get it to the forwards is what is needed

 

[Stoneman89]

Do we still have ]Hartikainen's rights?
I liked this guy when he was here

Too slow. And the game has sped up even more since he left. He'd get killed out there.

 

[Burnt Biscuits]

We need guys who we know are going to show up. No projects. Done with that.

If we land OEL and a quality back-up goaltender there is a decent chance that's all we can afford, we'll likely be choosing between projects and older players in decline.

There is a lot wrong with Gally's game and clear reasons why he's struggled, but there is no doubt he has a lot of talent, with his head screwed on straight he seems capable of doing damage with McDavid.

 

[Stoneman89]

I would legitimately trade McDavid over Draisaitl right now.

Credibility factor just dropped below zero.

 

[Smartguy]

PP QB is not the need - a good puck retrieving d-man who can get control of the puck quickly and get it to the forwards is what is needed

Yes D who are better at transitioning the puck I can agree with.

But Bear showed well there last year, Bouchard is bordering on NHL ready, arguably the best passing D we currently have in the system, Jones game is still growing, Broberg should be pushing the needle within the next 2 years, arguably the fastest D prospect we’ve had ever.

If in 3 years we are running a D corps of

Nurse-Bear
Klefbom-Bouchard
Broberg-Jones


That is a hopefully, very skilled, puck moving group, arguably too soft though.

Our prospects who are knocking at the door are of the mold of transition D, spending assets to acquire one now makes no sense to me.

Contrary to what fans believe this team isn’t going for it next year. But will likely when everything is, hopefully, back to normal in 2021-22, and our cap space opens up more

 

[t0nedeff]

I’ve said this before in here, Tippett has said in the past that he keeps Klefbom on PP1 because that’s what Mcdavid/Drai want. Klefbom is predictable and Mcdavid is the quarterback unlike most teams who use the D. The PP isn’t built around collapsing on a big shot from the point, it’s built on the cross ice passes for the most part.

Also does other poster not realize the PP was literally borderline record setting this past year? Why would you change anything about it

Because adding a legitimate threat from the point who can 1 shot from the blue line in would only make the pp even that much better? Adding something the opposition happens to worry about is never a bad thing.

 

[AddyTheWrath]

Any chance we can pry Hertl out of San Jose?

I just checked and Couture is signed for 8 mil/year until he's 38. Yikes.

 

[McDoused]

PP QB is not the need - a good puck retrieving d-man who can get control of the puck quickly and get it to the forwards is what is needed

I agree with this.

However, my biggest issue with our breakouts are as follows:

Our defense relies too heavily on McDavid and Draisaitl to make plays and act as a one man entry.
Meanwhile, our forwards dont do our defence any favours supporting the puck or getting open for passes.

I actually think our defence has good breakout passes, they just arent good at skating with the puck to open up passing lanes. They kind of just get the puck and stop skating and throw the puck around the ice hoping to connect.

 

[Cloned]

Well, Larsson typically doesn't score own goals.

Dude, he literally does.

 

[BlackDogg]

I'm gonna frame this and stick it to my wall.

It's more of an "off the wall" quote

 

[belair]

PP QB is not the need - a good puck retrieving d-man who can get control of the puck quickly and get it to the forwards is what is needed

One on unit two would be nice but let's let Bear, Nurse or Bouchard figure that one out. What's more important is finding forwards for that unit.

 

[Stoneman89]

Our defencemen to this point, do not have the skating ability to move deep into the offensive end to make plays and help out the forwards and then recover to come back and defend when necessary. Maybe Jones and Broberg can change that.

 

[Smartguy]

Because adding a legitimate threat from the point who can 1 shot from the blue line in would only make the pp even that much better? Adding something the opposition happens to worry about is never a bad thing.

Statistically speaking, our power play is very unlikely to get any “better”. You seem to think that it’s a point shot that would make it that much better, but that could also make it that much worse, trying to push plays to the point, rather than to Mcdavid/Drai.

Just saying if it’s not broke don’t fix it.

There must also be sayings around something like, if it’s record setting, it’s probably fine as is

 

[belair]

Our defencemen to this point, do not have the skating ability to move deep into the offensive end to make plays and help out the forwards and then recover to come back and defend when necessary. Maybe Jones and Broberg can change that.

I'm not sure this is true. Klefbom, Nurse, Bear and Jones all possess sufficient skating ability. Even Larsson contributes to the offensive cycle when it gets established. What we don't really have is that real point threat that changes the angle quickly to get good shots through. But it's not entirely necessary.

 

[Snipes45]

PP QB is not the need - a good puck retrieving d-man who can get control of the puck quickly and get it to the forwards is what is needed

DING DING DING. This for a million dollars. THIS is what we DESPERATELY NEED

As well as some forwards who can actually enter the other zone and do something with the puck and not just dump it in, lose a board battle, and chase

 

[tabs]

Our PP was historically good and chances are teams will study it and it won’t be as effective as is again next year, similar to how they took away Letestu’s one timer years ago.

Adding in a legit threat from the point will cause teams to have to defend differently. McD, Drai, and Nuge would still find cross ice lanes this past season even when the PK wouldn’t bother covering Klef. If the PK has to spread out more to cover the point threat, either Neal/Chiasson are more open at net front, or a bigger lane is opened in the slot. Adding a threat from the point may not make our PP better than it was this past season, but it could very well make sure our PP stays as effective as it was this past season.

 

[McDrai]

I'd be very interested in Matt Dumba. Former Red Deer Rebel and teammate of RNH. Good puck mover and QB on the PP. He'd easily be this team's best dman and I think he'd put up massive points here. Maybe Guerin can do us a "Sather" favor and trade him to us for a decent price

 

[belair]

LW for Connor. Do it up, 1 year show-me

I wouldn't be opposed to this if he signed for under $2.5m. He can play multiple positions and slide anywhere throughout the roster. He's a good secondary PP option and he was a volume shooter once upon a time. Only a year removed from reasonably solid production. I don't get the hate for the guy.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Our PP was historically good and chances are teams will study it and it won’t be as effective as is again next year, similar to how they took away Letestu’s one timer years ago.

Adding in a legit threat from the point will cause teams to have to defend differently. McD, Drai, and Nuge would still find cross ice lanes this past season even when the PK wouldn’t bother covering Klef. If the PK has to spread out more to cover the point threat, either Neal/Chiasson are more open at net front, or a bigger lane is opened in the slot. Adding a threat from the point may not make our PP better than it was this past season, but it could very well make sure our PP stays as effective as it was this past season.

While I can agree with this in theory..not necessarily true 100%.
PP's like Washington have basically been the same. And sometimes they do get figured out like Edm's did a few years back...actually half the league's when they all attempted that shot/pass/tip slot setup.

The biggest thing is players execution, which Backstrom has done for years.
The Oil are very lucky in that they have both Drai and McD who can always keep the d guessing with their passing and movements. I can agree tho that adding in a point should help

 

[Oilhawks]

I wouldn't be opposed to this if he signed for under $2.5m. He can play multiple positions and slide anywhere throughout the roster. He's a good secondary PP option and he was a volume shooter once upon a time. Only a year removed from reasonably solid production. I don't get the hate for the guy.

Agreed, if it came down to it I’d rather spend the money on him than AA. I’d like to give both a shot at similar dollars if Russel can be moved out or something.