Proposal: Rumors and Proposals Thread | Free Agency Underway

[lakai17]

Slepyshev scored 10 points last year. He's in no way a guy you lean on in either of those roles. If he earns his way on, fine. But he has shown nothing at this level to inspire confidence in the idea of him in a scoring role.

He was never given much of an opportunity to be on the second line either. He was usually in the bottom 6. I'm fine if he's on the 3rd line of course. He has talent and the i.q for the 2nd or 3rd line today, now I don't expect him to be a regular 2nd liner either due to the depth of the wing situation in Edmonton now.

Injuries do happen and players get cold so we will see him in a top 6 role this upcoming season either way.

 

[Mr Positive]

He was never given much of an opportunity to be on the second line either. He was usually in the bottom 6. I'm fine if he's on the 3rd line of course. He has talent and the i.q for the 2nd or 3rd line today, now I don't expect him to be a regular 2nd liner either due to the depth of the wing situation in Edmonton now.

Injuries do happen and players get cold so we will see him in a top 6 role this upcoming season either way.

Slepy also got more leaned on as time went on. The Lucic-Draisaitl-Slepyshev line had flashes of brilliance in the playoffs, but unfortunately didn't hold up game 7 vs the Ducks. But it's still something on the table

 

[FunkyChicken]

What happened to Derek Ryan?
I thought he was on the Stauffer watch list.

Edit. nm See he re-signed with Carolina

 

[belair]

He was never given much of an opportunity to be on the second line either. He was usually in the bottom 6. I'm fine if he's on the 3rd line of course. He has talent and the i.q for the 2nd or 3rd line today, now I don't expect him to be a regular 2nd liner either due to the depth of the wing situation in Edmonton now.

Injuries do happen and players get cold so we will see him in a top 6 role this upcoming season either way.

He was rewarded when he played well with several shifts on Connor McDavid's wing. I'm not saying he'll never develop these skills, but he just didn't understand where to be on the ice. He's not a guy I'd feel comfortable pencilling into a role where you expect some consistent production. This is a league where you need to learn how to walk before you run. It's the very same reason I don't see JP anywhere near the roster early on next year.

Slepyshev had a good run in the playoffs but even then he was only averaging 11 minutes a game and his production translates to 20 points over an 82 game season. He's a fourth liner until he proves otherwise IMO.

 

[Fourier]

This year Oilers can for sure and he's UFA after this season.

By cost I mean assets you trade for him. He may well be a one year rental.

 

[nexttothemoon]

I like the Stanton, Callahan, Ferlin signings... the rest... not so much, but they are AHL filler so it's basically zero risk... very low reward deals.

 

[Dazed and Confused]

I know the team just got him, but the more and more I look at it, the more and more I'd like to move Strome.

If you could flip him for say Zach Smith and a mid round pick, would anyone be upset? Then take a run at Jokinen (yes, I'm liking that idea from a page back)

Maroon-McDavid-Draisaitl
Jokinen-RNH-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Letestu-Slepyshev
Caggiula-Smith-Kassian

You're basically swapping out Pouliot, DD, and Eberle for Jokinen, Smith and Puljujarvi, I'd call that an upgrade, especially when it comes to versatility and defensive play.

 

[lakai17]

Slepyshev had a good run in the playoffs but even then he was only averaging 11 minutes a game and his production translates to 20 points over an 82 game season. He's a fourth liner until he proves otherwise IMO.

What are you expecting his point totals to be in his first nhl season or 2nd season in North America to be with 11 minutes a night?

Look at the bottom 6 he had to be juggled around with as well during the regular season.

You're snoozing on Slepyshev.

 

[nexttothemoon]

I know the team just got him, but the more and more I look at it, the more and more I'd like to move Strome.

If you could flip him for say Zach Smith and a mid round pick, would anyone be upset? Then take a run at Jokinen (yes, I'm liking that idea from a page back)

Maroon-McDavid-Draisaitl
Jokinen-RNH-Puljujarvi
Lucic-Letestu-Slepyshev
Caggiula-Smith-Kassian

You're basically swapping out Pouliot, DD, and Eberle for Jokinen, Smith and Puljujarvi, I'd call that an upgrade, especially when it comes to versatility and defensive play.

Strome is better than Zach Smith so it would be a downgrade. Mid round pick is a magic bean.

I'd like Desharnais re-signed actually... perfect 4th line filler with some talent.

Jokinen would be a good addition.

 

[belair]

What are you expecting his point totals to be in his first nhl season or 2nd season in North America to be with 11 minutes a night?

Look at the bottom 6 he had to be juggled around with as well during the regular season.

You're snoozing on Slepyshev. He'll at least have some decent players on the third line today.

Inexperienced players don't just automatically produce more when you give them a longer leash. Slepyshev doesn't exactly play a smart game to begin with. He succeeds when he plays a simple one and that doesn't necessarily bode well in a scoring role where you generally have to take risks to create offense. In the small opportunities he earned his way into an elevated role last year, he appeared overwhelmed. Judging by those viewings, I have no confidence in him as a consistent scorer at the NHL at this point in time.

 

[ThePhoenixx]

You fail to understand Narratives, it seems.

Example, Jordan Eberle was a low value cap dump. Rick Nash is a useful veteran player.

Narrative.

Edit: When the Narrative becomes "too much money, ohmygawd, can't win like this, ohmygawd" it's going to force the team into things, like this offseason.

Well so far you've called me simple, dumb, etc. lol.

Yet I don't see much for an argument from you other than you are going to boo and complain more about the contract if he doesn't score for a couple weeks and that the Oilers should trade him because that is bad.

Perhaps they should try to get Eberle back so that people will buy more tickets? After all, according to you, it wasn't because he was pretty much useless, it's because the team needed 20 million this year to sign Drasiatl?

Your "narrative" is changing. Now it's not "perception" it is your "reality". Well, I'm certainly not going to change your reality so I guess we will leave it at that.

 

[belair]

I've missed much of the activity the past few days but it seems the Draisaitl negotiation put the kibosh on anything large Peter may have had in mind on July 1. I don't think this roster is anywhere near complete.

Up front this is how I see it currently.

Maroon - McDavid - Draisaitl
Lucic - Nugent Hopkins - ______
Caggiula - Strome - Kassian
______ - Letestu - Slepyshev

Khaira, Pakarinen, Puljujarvi

Khaira is probably our 4th line LW/13th F since his waiver eligibility has kicked in, but I wouldn't necessarily pencil the other two on the roster just yet.

With the current UFA crop left over, I think Jussi Jokinen and Drew Stafford are two low cost standouts that could make some sense on the roster. Brian Gionta and Jaromir Jagr are also reasonable buy low options on the wing. Dwight King is another one who could make some sense in that 4th line LW slot. It'll be interesting to see how things play out.

We also are still one NHL defenseman short. Any news on Jared Cowen?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Strome is better than Zach Smith so it would be a downgrade. Mid round pick is a magic bean.

I'd like Desharnais re-signed actually... perfect 4th line filler with some talent.

Jokinen would be a good addition.

Strome is a better player than Smith, but with how this team is constructed Strome is redundant, while Smith covers a massive need.

The one thing with running a... McDavid
RNH/Draisaitl
Letestu/Strome
DD/Letestu

... centre core, is you're (once again) one of the weaker set of centres defensively in the league.

With McDavid, Draisaitl, RNH, and even Letestu on board I'm willing to sacrifice one of the lower end, purely offensive options for a front line PK'er and defensive specialist, especially if you can add Jokinen instead. Plus being able to run Draisaitl, Jokinen, Letestu, and Smith (even if they aren't the centre per se) on each line means you can get a halfway decent F/O% across the board.


Smith I really like due to the fact he's under contract for a few more years at a reasonable rate, and his versatility. He can be a PP net presence and grinding LW'er in the top 6 if the team loses Maroon next offseason.

In Ottawa however he's become rather redundant with Pageau, Burrows, Thompson and Pyatt in the bottom 6.

 

[belair]

Ottawa's not trading Smith and we're not trading Strome. Simple as that.

 

[Cloned]

I've missed much of the activity the past few days but it seems the Draisaitl negotiation put the kibosh on anything large Peter may have had in mind on July 1. I don't think this roster is anywhere near complete.

Up front this is how I see it currently.

Maroon - McDavid - Draisaitl
Lucic - Nugent Hopkins - ______
Caggiula - Strome - Kassian
______ - Letestu - Slepyshev

Khaira, Pakarinen, Puljujarvi

Khaira is probably our 4th line LW/13th F since his waiver eligibility has kicked in, but I wouldn't necessarily pencil the other two on the roster just yet.

With the current UFA crop left over, I think Jussi Jokinen and Drew Stafford are two low cost standouts that could make some sense on the roster. Brian Gionta and Jaromir Jagr are also reasonable buy low options on the wing. Dwight King is another one who could make some sense in that 4th line LW slot. It'll be interesting to see how things play out.

We also are still one NHL defenseman short. Any news on Jared Cowen?

What I think you might see:

One of Stafford or Jokinen

One of Polak or Franson

 

[Paralyzer008]

You could probably get P-A Parenteau for one year at 650K.

I mean, that's not bad. Easy to waive.

 

[Frank the Tank]

I agree that a veteran Finn like Jokinen, who can still contribute to a 3rd line role, would be a great addition should Puljujarvi stay in Edmonton all season.

 

[bobbythebrain]

We freed up the cap for Rick Nash

Maroon-McD-Poolparty
Looch-Drai-Nash
Cags-RNH-Strome

 

[Cloned]

You could probably get P-A Parenteau for one year at 650K.

I mean, that's not bad. Easy to waive.

I still remember the anger here last year when Chia didn't grab Parenteau.

 

[belair]

What I think you might see:

One of Stafford or Jokinen

One of Polak or Franson

I still really like the idea of Franson.

Jokinen makes a lot of sense because he fits the C/W mold that Chiarelli and McLellan are leaning towards. The one thing I'm wondering is if Chiarelli can scoop up a few of these types of guys at a lower cost after waiting them out.

We freed up the cap for Rick Nash

Maroon-McD-Poolparty
Looch-Drai-Nash
Cags-RNH-Strome

Nash would be an outstanding addition to the forward group. I would play him right beside McDavid and watch the terror rain down on the rest of the league. But Rick Nash has said multiple times he wouldn't waive for a Canadian team. Unless something gives and the Rangers need cap for someone like Kovalchuk, I can't see it realistically happening.

 

[Cloned]

I still really like the idea of Franson.

Jokinen makes a lot of sense because he fits the C/W mold that Chiarelli and McLellan are leaning towards. The one thing I'm wondering is if Chiarelli can scoop up a few of these types of guys at a lower cost after waiting them out.

I think Polak and Stafford sign for less than Franson and Jokinen, so it really depends on how much cap Chia has left and how much term those guys want.

 

[Fourier]

I still really like the idea of Franson.

Jokinen makes a lot of sense because he fits the C/W mold that Chiarelli and McLellan are leaning towards. The one thing I'm wondering is if Chiarelli can scoop up a few of these types of guys at a lower cost after waiting them out.

I would guess that it is not just lower cost but also a one year deal that Chia is pushing for. Those tend to happen much later in the off season.

Chia said that he had more players contact him than in either of the last two years and that there were some positive conversations for both FA's and for trades. My guess is that he simply won't pull the trigger on anything of substance until after he has both McDavid and Leon signed.

 

[LTIR]

Hemksy would have been nice... oh well...
Stay the course Chia!! Making the playoffs wont be easy..

 

[McDrai]

Sign a LW and a RW to 1 year contracts and put them with McDavid. Put Maroon, Strome, Caggiula, Slepyshev et al on different lines so that when we re-sign them, they wont be asking for an astronomical amount due to the boost in scoring they would receive if on a line with McDavid

LW-McDavid-RW
Lucic-Draisaitl-Strome
Maroon-RNH-Caggiula
Slepyshev-Letestu-Kassian

 

[Bryanbryoil]

I agree that a veteran Finn like Jokinen, who can still contribute to a 3rd line role, would be a great addition should Puljujarvi stay in Edmonton all season.

It would allow Puljujarvi to be used further down the lineup as well in case he isn't ready for top 6 duty.