Talbot might be at the same level as Howard was when he was good, but my grandmother would be an upgrade over Howard right now, and she's been dead for 3 decades.I’m not looking for the goalie of the future here. Talbot and Bernier will keep us from setting records next year lol that’s all I want.
From my brain, through your thumb.Talbot might be at the same level as Howard was when he was good, but my grandmother would be an upgrade over Howard right now, and she's been dead for 3 decades.
Basically anything is an upgrade over current Howard, so I'd take Talbot, or Halak, or anyone else willing to sign a short term deal. My preference would be to overpay for one year deals. Aging goalies tend to fall off a cliff, wouldn't want to be saddled with Howard-like performances for more than a season.
An upgrade over Howie makes the team better next season, so we can compete for that #6 pick again.
Goaltending is a lot like Running Backs in the NFL for me in terms of value. If you land a great one - an elite talent at the position - you can build an entire team around them and they can make you an immediate playoff contender because of the oversized impact of the position. However, short of that, the difference between a "good" one and a "adequate" starter is so nuanced and contingent on so many other factors; it's not worth the increase in price for me.
There's a whole group of "good" to "adequate" and the difference between them varies from situation and season to season. And then you have flat out "should not be a starter" which is where Howard is for me at this point.
Can I say that Varlomov@ .917 S% and 2.55GAA @$5-6M is worth $2.5M more to me than slightly less numbers in a guy like Talbot or Mike Smith of EDM? Meh. I don't think any of them are so great that they can take over a game.
You need a goalie who can at least do the basics and keep you in a game - which should be cheap. There's not reason to dump significant cap into the position.
Why worry about things you can;t control?I am starting to get very worried Ottawa is getting Alex. They have better odds at 21.2% over Detroits 17.9%. Ottawa holds the key with SJ. SJ needs to win to reduce Ottawas odds. Lets not talk about roster turnover until we know what we are getting, as this draft truly is a make or break type draft for Detroit. Get Alex, it sets them up for years. Ottawa gets him, I am afraid we may never get that true #1 player all other tanking teams seem to get. Given Bettman has his hand in the cookie jar, his hate for the Red Wings, yet turmoil with Ottawa owner, does he just give Alex to LA. Be afraid people.
I am starting to get very worried Ottawa is getting Alex. They have better odds at 21.2% over Detroits 17.9%. Ottawa holds the key with SJ. SJ needs to win to reduce Ottawas odds. Lets not talk about roster turnover until we know what we are getting, as this draft truly is a make or break type draft for Detroit. Get Alex, it sets them up for years. Ottawa gets him, I am afraid we may never get that true #1 player all other tanking teams seem to get. Given Bettman has his hand in the cookie jar, his hate for the Red Wings, yet turmoil with Ottawa owner, does he just give Alex to LA. Be afraid people.
Goaltending is a lot like Running Backs in the NFL for me in terms of value. If you land a great one - an elite talent at the position - you can build an entire team around them and they can make you an immediate playoff contender because of the oversized impact of the position. However, short of that, the difference between a "good" one and a "adequate" starter is so nuanced and contingent on so many other factors; it's not worth the increase in price for me.
There's a whole group of "good" to "adequate" and the difference between them varies from situation and season to season. And then you have flat out "should not be a starter" which is where Howard is for me at this point.
Can I say that Varlomov@ .917 S% and 2.55GAA @$5-6M is worth $2.5M more to me than slightly less numbers in a guy like Talbot or Mike Smith of EDM? Meh. I don't think any of them are so great that they can take over a game.
You need a goalie who can at least do the basics and keep you in a game - which should be cheap. There's not reason to dump significant cap into the position.
Talbot might be at the same level as Howard was when he was good, but my grandmother would be an upgrade over Howard right now, and she's been dead for 3 decades.
Basically anything is an upgrade over current Howard, so I'd take Talbot, or Halak, or anyone else willing to sign a short term deal. My preference would be to overpay for one year deals. Aging goalies tend to fall off a cliff, wouldn't want to be saddled with Howard-like performances for more than a season.
An upgrade over Howie makes the team better next season, so we can compete for that #6 pick again.
I am starting to get very worried Ottawa is getting Alex. They have better odds at 21.2% over Detroits 17.9%. Ottawa holds the key with SJ. SJ needs to win to reduce Ottawas odds. Lets not talk about roster turnover until we know what we are getting, as this draft truly is a make or break type draft for Detroit. Get Alex, it sets them up for years. Ottawa gets him, I am afraid we may never get that true #1 player all other tanking teams seem to get. Given Bettman has his hand in the cookie jar, his hate for the Red Wings, yet turmoil with Ottawa owner, does he just give Alex to LA. Be afraid people.
That's a huge pass for me. We already have Hronek and Seider for the future on the right side. No need to pay big money for someone like Barrie.Would Tyson Barrie be of interest this summer? UFA right handed D, turns 29 at the end of July. He is going to be expensive though, at around 7.5M AAV.
Having Hronek, Seider and Barrie as RHD would be pretty great. Lindstrom/Bowey/Biega would the 7th D.
Nemeth - Hronek
Dekeyser - Barrie
Cholowsky or UFA - Seider
Where did the 17.9% odds come from? Are the odds for last place getting 1stOA not 18.5% ?
Also, we are in a lotto system built to punish tanking, why are people so surprised that it's a longshot for us to get 1stOA.
Ottawa has better odds because they have more lottery picks, that should not upset anyone or come as a shock.
If we had another lotto pick we'd have better odds too.
But odds favor us picking at 4th. Everyone needs to get off the 1st OA hype train or this form is going to be a gong show all summer long.
We are picking 4th, ANYTHING higher is just a cherry on top.
Nearly identical odds of picking top 3 as we have for picking 4th. Pretty much 50/50Where did the 17.9% odds come from? Are the odds for last place getting 1stOA not 18.5% ?
Also, we are in a lotto system built to punish tanking, why are people so surprised that it's a longshot for us to get 1stOA.
Ottawa has better odds because they have more lottery picks, that should not upset anyone or come as a shock.
If we had another lotto pick we'd have better odds too.
But odds favor us picking at 4th. Everyone needs to get off the 1st OA hype train or this form is going to be a gong show all summer long.
We are picking 4th, ANYTHING higher is just a cherry on top.
They don't?Our luck in the lottery has not be good but another impact of Holland going for it was our rebuild years delayed to post expansion and some years we got pushed back a spot due to expansion teams. that would not have happened if Holland started the rebuild when it was necessary.
I don't really understand the current lottery odds but how would a team get better odds than the last place team?
Oh I see someone is saying Ottawa has better odds because they have additional lottery picks? I just wasn't following.
Correct. Ottawa has their first and SJ's first, both of which are lottery picks. Between the two they will likely have a higher chance at first overall than we do. It depends on where SJ finishes in the standings.
Evgeny Svechnikov i know? Not sure who else.Who loses waiver exemption next year?
Who loses waiver exemption next year?
Evgeny Svechnikov i know? Not sure who else.
The odds are not that bad for us. Yes, if you look at the breakdown then we're most likely to pick 4th overall. However, at 50.6% it is only slightly higher than the odds are that we'll be picking in the top 3. It is a coin flip, more or less.
Our luck in the lottery has been absolutely horrible so far, but that does not mean it will continue. We'll see. I remain hopeful that we'll be picking somewhere in the top 3 rather than in 4th. At some point, one of our balls has to come up in the lottery. Maybe it happens this year. Maybe not. At least we've maximized our chances of getting a top 3 pick this year. That's all we could do, the rest is left to chance.