TwineTickler
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That's what really makes it a B+ for me... 24 year olds with term... not 28-30 rentals or only under control for 1 year. These guys are not at their potential. Hopefully they reach their potential here...
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That's what really makes it a B+ for me... 24 year olds with term... not 28-30 rentals or only under control for 1 year. These guys are not at their potential. Hopefully they reach their potential here...
TwineTickler
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He'll be back... and hopefully like the 10th option on D. Don't feel comfortable whatsoever about throwing him to the fire after the amount of time he's missed.
Spooner st
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B+ 2 young players with term for areas of need. Getting rid of Backes contract while getting extra cap room.
- May 28, 2011
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B+
In Kase, I think they got the best available RW this year. Palmieri would be nice to have, but I actually think Kase is a better fit due to his effectiveness 5 on 5. A lot of Palmieri's production comes on the powerplay, and it's hard to see him getting the same role in Boston. I think Kase is being seriously underrated on this board as he doesn't have the name recognition of Palmieri, Kreider or Toffoli, but he's just as good 5 on 5 as those guys. My only concern with him is the injury history. If he's healthy, I think he's going to surprise a lot of people. He's a legitimate top six talent, a clear step above the Bjorks and Kuhlmans.
I'm a fan of Heinen's, but I will admit he's disappointed offensively this year. I think he was unfairly criticized a lot last year in what appeared to be a sophomore slump, but he's shown zero progress this year. He's nearing the age where what you see is what you get. I'm hoping he can re-establish some confidence and get back to the 45-50 point guy he was in his rookie year, but it could go either way. Wish him nothing but the best in Anaheim.
I'm excited for Ritchie (the good one). He's what I hope Frederic will be in a few years. I like watching skilled two-way guys as much as anybody, but it was clear they have way too many 6' 190 lb guys playing the same style of game at this point. They needed balance and they got it. Can't wait to watch him and Coyle creating havoc down low. I'm also interested to see if Cassidy will try him with Krejci and Kase at some point and go back to that Debrusk-Coyle-Bjork line that was effective when Krejci was out. Either way, the top nine is looking pretty solid with a good mix of speed, skill and size. Massive improvement from a couple weeks ago.
My only criticism would be that I would have loved to get Palmieri in addition to those two, but clearly the ask was too much since he wasn't dealt at all. I can only imagine what it would cost what with Barclay Goodrow returning a 1st (lmao). One single player isn't going to make that much of a difference at the end of the day anyway. Most importantly, they've put themselves in a great position to compete with the other top contenders while improving the cap situation in the offseason and not mortgaging the future. Can't ask for much more.
In Kase, I think they got the best available RW this year. Palmieri would be nice to have, but I actually think Kase is a better fit due to his effectiveness 5 on 5. A lot of Palmieri's production comes on the powerplay, and it's hard to see him getting the same role in Boston. I think Kase is being seriously underrated on this board as he doesn't have the name recognition of Palmieri, Kreider or Toffoli, but he's just as good 5 on 5 as those guys. My only concern with him is the injury history. If he's healthy, I think he's going to surprise a lot of people. He's a legitimate top six talent, a clear step above the Bjorks and Kuhlmans.
I'm a fan of Heinen's, but I will admit he's disappointed offensively this year. I think he was unfairly criticized a lot last year in what appeared to be a sophomore slump, but he's shown zero progress this year. He's nearing the age where what you see is what you get. I'm hoping he can re-establish some confidence and get back to the 45-50 point guy he was in his rookie year, but it could go either way. Wish him nothing but the best in Anaheim.
I'm excited for Ritchie (the good one). He's what I hope Frederic will be in a few years. I like watching skilled two-way guys as much as anybody, but it was clear they have way too many 6' 190 lb guys playing the same style of game at this point. They needed balance and they got it. Can't wait to watch him and Coyle creating havoc down low. I'm also interested to see if Cassidy will try him with Krejci and Kase at some point and go back to that Debrusk-Coyle-Bjork line that was effective when Krejci was out. Either way, the top nine is looking pretty solid with a good mix of speed, skill and size. Massive improvement from a couple weeks ago.
My only criticism would be that I would have loved to get Palmieri in addition to those two, but clearly the ask was too much since he wasn't dealt at all. I can only imagine what it would cost what with Barclay Goodrow returning a 1st (lmao). One single player isn't going to make that much of a difference at the end of the day anyway. Most importantly, they've put themselves in a great position to compete with the other top contenders while improving the cap situation in the offseason and not mortgaging the future. Can't ask for much more.
BruinDust
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I gave him a B+
He made the roster better in both the short and long term without mortgaging the future.
He addressed some of the need for more physicality and jam.
He shed an albatross contract that should allow him to retain his star offensive D-man in Krug this summer.
He shipped out a player in Heinen who didn't really have a role on this team now or moving forward. Not a 4th line guy, not a PKer, not a PP specialist, not legit scoring line F, a swiss-army knife on a team that doesn't need one.
He didn't bring in that legitimate proven veteran scoring winger that most here (including myself) wanted to see brought in. And considering the cup window for the Chara/Bergeron/Marchand/Krejci/Rask core is getting closer and closer to closing, I thought now was the time to bring in that guy. I think seeing Kreider re-sign shagged up their plans, he was their guy. He had enough jars in the cupboard in terms of quality B-level prospects to get that done if he needed to, but Kreider took that opportunity away on his own. We may look back on missing out on Toffoli as the big whiff of this deadline if they don't win a cup.
He made the roster better in both the short and long term without mortgaging the future.
He addressed some of the need for more physicality and jam.
He shed an albatross contract that should allow him to retain his star offensive D-man in Krug this summer.
He shipped out a player in Heinen who didn't really have a role on this team now or moving forward. Not a 4th line guy, not a PKer, not a PP specialist, not legit scoring line F, a swiss-army knife on a team that doesn't need one.
He didn't bring in that legitimate proven veteran scoring winger that most here (including myself) wanted to see brought in. And considering the cup window for the Chara/Bergeron/Marchand/Krejci/Rask core is getting closer and closer to closing, I thought now was the time to bring in that guy. I think seeing Kreider re-sign shagged up their plans, he was their guy. He had enough jars in the cupboard in terms of quality B-level prospects to get that done if he needed to, but Kreider took that opportunity away on his own. We may look back on missing out on Toffoli as the big whiff of this deadline if they don't win a cup.
I went D+ and I know I'm being harsh. Feel they should've done more to fill that black hole at 2RW while they still have a shot at a cup run. That window is gonna slam shut in a hurry and they'll be left holding onto their shmenzers in one hand and all the prospects and picks in the other
Trizz617
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Solid B+. Got skill and some much needed brawn in Kase & Ritchie respectively, to further supplement the lineup. Had to use a 1st to get rid of Backes cumbersome contract, but that's the price that had to be paid to free up some cap (short & long term). We didn't get the so-called "big fishes" in Palmieri or Kreider, but neither did Tampa, Pitt or Washington for that matter. We did pretty dam well with our own additions.
Flannelman
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I went B-
no major jeopardizing moves. But I felt like one of Palmieri, Kreider, Saad would have enhanced their cup chances spectacularly. However, where did those three guys move? It would be easier to judge, like Stone last year, what the Bruins didn’t give up to get what they wanted.
there were a lot of overpayments , imo. And Sweeney didn’t do that.
where do Ritchie and Goodrow compare to one another? I like our move better.
Kase is a gamble but certainly seems like he has the skill.
both kids have a lot of potential to click in this lineup and I feel like the entire lineup is very interchangeable/versatile.
that said, I would have liked a Vet insurance policy. I can come to grips not landing one of the big proven names butI did think they’d get one more forward instead of just shuffling things around.
where the grade turns for me is that they spent so much moving Backes and then didn’t use the cap space to help now. And, I’d argue, Backes should have been cheaper to move post draft.
could they have made the moves they did w out moving Backes? We won’t know but I suspect it was possible. There’s obviously hindsight there. Needed the Space for the potential big player and Killers return off LTIR.
cant change it, gotta roll w it. Let’s hope we get one more win.
no major jeopardizing moves. But I felt like one of Palmieri, Kreider, Saad would have enhanced their cup chances spectacularly. However, where did those three guys move? It would be easier to judge, like Stone last year, what the Bruins didn’t give up to get what they wanted.
there were a lot of overpayments , imo. And Sweeney didn’t do that.
where do Ritchie and Goodrow compare to one another? I like our move better.
Kase is a gamble but certainly seems like he has the skill.
both kids have a lot of potential to click in this lineup and I feel like the entire lineup is very interchangeable/versatile.
that said, I would have liked a Vet insurance policy. I can come to grips not landing one of the big proven names butI did think they’d get one more forward instead of just shuffling things around.
where the grade turns for me is that they spent so much moving Backes and then didn’t use the cap space to help now. And, I’d argue, Backes should have been cheaper to move post draft.
could they have made the moves they did w out moving Backes? We won’t know but I suspect it was possible. There’s obviously hindsight there. Needed the Space for the potential big player and Killers return off LTIR.
cant change it, gotta roll w it. Let’s hope we get one more win.
VanIsle
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A
Got Kase (skill) Ritchie (toughness), got rid of Backes and Heinen and hopefully a very late 1st, didn't overpay like other teams and created cap space for Krug who drives the PP and who the Bruins need.
Honestly who else was out there.
Teams are learning that you don't need to pay an over hyped older player term to win.
Liked it for what it was and Kase will be amazing, book it~!!!!!
Got Kase (skill) Ritchie (toughness), got rid of Backes and Heinen and hopefully a very late 1st, didn't overpay like other teams and created cap space for Krug who drives the PP and who the Bruins need.
Honestly who else was out there.
Teams are learning that you don't need to pay an over hyped older player term to win.
Liked it for what it was and Kase will be amazing, book it~!!!!!
smithformeragent
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I said C minus, but I don’t know how you assign a grade to the Backes deal.
A first and 25% salary retained is a bitter pill. Yes, you do get some value back in return in Kase.
It’s like grading having your wisdom teeth removed. You don’t like it, but it has to be done.
A first and 25% salary retained is a bitter pill. Yes, you do get some value back in return in Kase.
It’s like grading having your wisdom teeth removed. You don’t like it, but it has to be done.
A-
Kase will be a very nice addition to the offense, his "injury prone" tag is over billed, he will be fine.
Nick Ritchie was born to be a Bruin, he will be loved here! Just what the doctor ordered.
The cap space to hang onto everyone this summer is awesome.
I'm a happy camper.
Kase will be a very nice addition to the offense, his "injury prone" tag is over billed, he will be fine.
Nick Ritchie was born to be a Bruin, he will be loved here! Just what the doctor ordered.
The cap space to hang onto everyone this summer is awesome.
I'm a happy camper.
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Jean_Jacket41
Neely = HOF
B+
Upgraded two positions in the top-9.
Kase >>> Kuhlman
Ritchie > Heinen
Cleared Cap space for next year to extend Krug.
Hold on to all the top prospects.
Only thing of real value going out is the 1st but that was the price to pay to get out of Backes. Still got a 24y W with good upside in that swap.
Could have been better with a Kreider or Palmieri addition but no other team got them.
Bruins will again be a very tough out and a Cup favorite come April.
Enjoy another long Cup run Bruins fans!
Upgraded two positions in the top-9.
Kase >>> Kuhlman
Ritchie > Heinen
Cleared Cap space for next year to extend Krug.
Hold on to all the top prospects.
Only thing of real value going out is the 1st but that was the price to pay to get out of Backes. Still got a 24y W with good upside in that swap.
Could have been better with a Kreider or Palmieri addition but no other team got them.
Bruins will again be a very tough out and a Cup favorite come April.
Enjoy another long Cup run Bruins fans!
TheReal13Linseman
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You mean Barry Pederson?
Well, if either Kase or Ritchie becomes a Neely, I’ll eat my hat. At center ice at TD garden. While streaking.
riverhawkey91
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C.
Both trades individually were solid value, and Boston is a better team now than prior to them, but they don't make nearly as much sense now as they did prior to the deadline passing.
Boston didn't need the cap space for this season, and could likely have moved Backes after paying his bonus July 1st for cheap rather than paying a first rounder to do it now. Getting Kase out of it is great, but what would have been the price if Anaheim didn't take Backes...a 2nd? Ultimately if the cap moves were all just to re-sign Krug, couldn't they have done that with the 10% overage in the summer prior to moving Backes?
Feels like a real miss to not use that cap space gained for this season on a RW rental for a middling pick.
Both trades individually were solid value, and Boston is a better team now than prior to them, but they don't make nearly as much sense now as they did prior to the deadline passing.
Boston didn't need the cap space for this season, and could likely have moved Backes after paying his bonus July 1st for cheap rather than paying a first rounder to do it now. Getting Kase out of it is great, but what would have been the price if Anaheim didn't take Backes...a 2nd? Ultimately if the cap moves were all just to re-sign Krug, couldn't they have done that with the 10% overage in the summer prior to moving Backes?
Feels like a real miss to not use that cap space gained for this season on a RW rental for a middling pick.
PatriceBergeronFan
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I can understand Bs and Cs but anything higher or lower seems too strong considering the two trades were very good, but the Bruins have uncertainty at Krejci's wing still.
oops, yes, Pederson. The point is sometimes you try to solve a problem getting ahead of the curve on a player. Riskier than a (more) proven commodity, but could pan out incredibly well.
neelynugs
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depends on how much you like torey krug, since that money is probably tied to signing him.
Fenian24
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B+. Kase is a gamble, Ritchie is just what they needed at forward and Heinen gone.
Negative is still no 2RW. Big negative.
No more Heinen. Big plus
Negative is still no 2RW. Big negative.
No more Heinen. Big plus
neelynugs
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like kase, hope he stays healthy. like that backes and his cap hit are gone. didn't like giving
up axel andersson but minor quibble. like ritchie and getting size. like that heinen will go
somewhere else, just wasn't working here. don't like that they used a half measure on
krejci's RW addition. hard to count on kase, and now that heinen is gone, kuhlman is
really the only other option on RW (with bjork already being forced to that side). palmieri
was the guy, but unfortunately they couldn't get it done. overall, was a good deadline, and
that backes money should help with krug re-signing. B- for now, reassess again in june
up axel andersson but minor quibble. like ritchie and getting size. like that heinen will go
somewhere else, just wasn't working here. don't like that they used a half measure on
krejci's RW addition. hard to count on kase, and now that heinen is gone, kuhlman is
really the only other option on RW (with bjork already being forced to that side). palmieri
was the guy, but unfortunately they couldn't get it done. overall, was a good deadline, and
that backes money should help with krug re-signing. B- for now, reassess again in june
DiggityDog
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Solid B
I like the players they added and think they will compliment the core.
I’m a little disappointed they didn’t fix the RW 2 spot, but I’m still satisfied.
The onus to win is still on the core, these players will help them.
I like the players they added and think they will compliment the core.
I’m a little disappointed they didn’t fix the RW 2 spot, but I’m still satisfied.
The onus to win is still on the core, these players will help them.
TheReal13Linseman
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10-4. If Ritchie can at least hit and fight like Cam, I’ll consider that a win.
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