Zman5778
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Friedman spitballing Palat, Killorn, and Sergachev.
Palat and Killorn have NTCs. That said, it sure seems like a reasonable return. Two middle 6 wingers and Sergachev.
Friedman spitballing Palat, Killorn, and Sergachev.
Every time we start talking Brayden Point I can't help but think what a blessing it is that we drafted Brycen Martin five spots ahead of him.
Friedman spitballing Palat, Killorn, and Sergachev.
I don't see the reason we need to give up to our of our young Dmen though. I am all on board for that type of a player, but he isn't leaving Tampa without some sort of a salary dump and that should take McCabe off the table immediately. I should hope that Risto, Mitts, 1st will get us Point, Ryan Callahans 5.8 million.
Which raises the question as to whether or not we can afford to take on that salary for a year?
Sergechev straight up is a massive win.Palat, Killorn and Sergechev? That's an interesting return.
“I wonder if Tampa is one of those teams that takes a long look at Ristolainen from Buffalo....
First of all Buffalo is going to want something for him, there is a market building for him out there...”
Palat, Killorn, Callahan and maybe Sergachev to not have to pay him next contract. Not all of them, just throwing those ideas out there.
Palat is still a good defensive forward, but his offensive game has completely evaporated, but 3 years, ages 28-30 seasons, is doable... Unfortunately Palat has a full NTC. So... you can cross him off the list
Killorn is at the age where acquiring 4 years/4.45 per makes very little sense (do we really want ages 30-33)? Regardless, he also has a full NTC.
I imagine Callahan is part of the value equation in any Risto deal to get an actual player of value. He has a 16 team NTC. I imagine he'd waive for Buffalo if it was agreed that Buffalo would buy him out, that would result in 2.6 dead in 19-20, and 1.6 dead in 2020-21.
Sergachev is definitely someone I expect Tampa to shop. But I do not think we should be on the buyer list. We've got the offensive/puckmover/PP QB portion of our D core pretty locked in (Dahlin, Pilut, Montour) IMO. We need D that D, and Sergachev isn't that.
JT Miller remains the obvious salary matching piece of the move. But it's Cirelli who Botts HAS to hold out for. If you're not getting a piece that addresses a long term issue, then don't bother trading with Tampa.
Botts needs to hold firm. Cirelli, or there's nothing to talk about.
Cirelli, Miller, Callahan
for
Risto, McCabe, Erod
Olofsson-Eichel-JT Miller
Skinner-Cirelli-Reinhart
Weal-Mitts-Nylander
Smith-Larsson-Carpenter
Palat is still a good defensive forward, but his offensive game has completely evaporated, but 3 years, ages 28-30 seasons, is doable... Unfortunately Palat has a full NTC. So... you can cross him off the list
Killorn is at the age where acquiring 4 years/4.45 per makes very little sense (do we really want ages 30-33)? Regardless, he also has a full NTC.
I imagine Callahan is part of the value equation in any Risto deal to get an actual player of value. He has a 16 team NTC. I imagine he'd waive for Buffalo if it was agreed that Buffalo would buy him out, that would result in 2.6 dead in 19-20, and 1.6 dead in 2020-21.
Sergachev is definitely someone I expect Tampa to shop. But I do not think we should be on the buyer list. We've got the offensive/puckmover/PP QB portion of our D core pretty locked in (Dahlin, Pilut, Montour) IMO. We need D that D, and Sergachev isn't that.
JT Miller remains the obvious salary matching piece of the move. But it's Cirelli who Botts HAS to hold out for. If you're not getting a piece that addresses a long term issue, then don't bother trading with Tampa.
Botts needs to hold firm. Cirelli, or there's nothing to talk about.
Cirelli, Miller, Callahan
for
Risto, McCabe, Erod
Olofsson-Eichel-JT Miller
Skinner-Cirelli-Reinhart
Weal-Mitts-Nylander
Smith-Larsson-Carpenter
Swap Miller with Gourde and I could get behind the deal. Cirelli is a very very good young player. I'm not a huge Miller fan, Gourde is a little feller but he scores goals in the greasy areas and has what I view as a better offensive skillset.Palat is still a good defensive forward, but his offensive game has completely evaporated, but 3 years, ages 28-30 seasons, is doable... Unfortunately Palat has a full NTC. So... you can cross him off the list
Killorn is at the age where acquiring 4 years/4.45 per makes very little sense (do we really want ages 30-33)? Regardless, he also has a full NTC.
I imagine Callahan is part of the value equation in any Risto deal to get an actual player of value. He has a 16 team NTC. I imagine he'd waive for Buffalo if it was agreed that Buffalo would buy him out, that would result in 2.6 dead in 19-20, and 1.6 dead in 2020-21.
Sergachev is definitely someone I expect Tampa to shop. But I do not think we should be on the buyer list. We've got the offensive/puckmover/PP QB portion of our D core pretty locked in (Dahlin, Pilut, Montour) IMO. We need D that D, and Sergachev isn't that.
JT Miller remains the obvious salary matching piece of the move. But it's Cirelli who Botts HAS to hold out for. If you're not getting a piece that addresses a long term issue, then don't bother trading with Tampa.
Botts needs to hold firm. Cirelli, or there's nothing to talk about.
Cirelli, Miller, Callahan
for
Risto, McCabe, Erod
Olofsson-Eichel-JT Miller
Skinner-Cirelli-Reinhart
Weal-Mitts-Nylander
Smith-Larsson-Carpenter
Friedman spitballing Palat, Killorn, and Sergachev.
Swap Miller with Gourde and I could get behind the deal. Cirelli is a very very good young player. I'm not a huge Miller fan, Gourde is a little feller but he scores goals in the greasy areas and has what I view as a better offensive skillset.
@Jame what happened to Palat this year? He seems to have dropped off significantly from a quick glance.
Cirelli is about to be all rookie team.
That’s terrible. Friedman better keep spitballing.Friedman spitballing Palat, Killorn, and Sergachev.
Palat is still a good defensive forward, but his offensive game has completely evaporated, but 3 years, ages 28-30 seasons, is doable... Unfortunately Palat has a full NTC. So... you can cross him off the list
Killorn is at the age where acquiring 4 years/4.45 per makes very little sense (do we really want ages 30-33)? Regardless, he also has a full NTC.
I imagine Callahan is part of the value equation in any Risto deal to get an actual player of value. He has a 16 team NTC. I imagine he'd waive for Buffalo if it was agreed that Buffalo would buy him out, that would result in 2.6 dead in 19-20, and 1.6 dead in 2020-21.
Sergachev is definitely someone I expect Tampa to shop. But I do not think we should be on the buyer list. We've got the offensive/puckmover/PP QB portion of our D core pretty locked in (Dahlin, Pilut, Montour) IMO. We need D that D, and Sergachev isn't that.
JT Miller remains the obvious salary matching piece of the move. But it's Cirelli who Botts HAS to hold out for. If you're not getting a piece that addresses a long term issue, then don't bother trading with Tampa.
Botts needs to hold firm. Cirelli, or there's nothing to talk about.
Cirelli, Miller, Callahan
for
Risto, McCabe, Erod
Olofsson-Eichel-JT Miller
Skinner-Cirelli-Reinhart
Weal-Mitts-Nylander
Smith-Larsson-Carpenter
This is starting to remind me of scanning STL's roster for some of the GOOD pieces we could get for ROR, ugh
prepare for Miller, Cally & Masin
I'd add in the deal to upgrade from a serviceable top 6 guy to a good top 6 guyI doubt we are getting Gourde AND Cirelli without a significant add.
If Botts could pull that off my faith in him would be restored. Regardless if Risto goes to Tampa and turns it around because he sure as hell ain’t doing it here. That makes our team better and that’s what matters most.
On a side note I’d pass on Weal. Rather have a bigger more physical presence on the third. Would like to see Girgs there to see if he can rekindle his tank years scoring.