Player Discussion Pontus Aberg

[Elvs]

Anyway, for the most part us Swedes are happy with the English pronunciations of our names, since you make them sound cooler anyway. It would just sound dumb if you tried to say Forsberg or Silfverberg the way we do. So keep on with the "Buurrgh" please.

But some inconsistancies are mind boggling. Christian Folin is a good example. All the time I hear the announcers say "Foll-inn" when it's actually "Fo-liiin" just like "Se-diiin", "Sun-diiin" and "Mo-diiin" which they were all getting right.

 

[Dryish]

I, for one, do want to see poor American commentators try to pronounce Forsberg as Foahshbaeg consistently.

 

[Kalv]

how you pronounce Silfverberg?

 

[Mortal Wombat]

how you pronounce Silfverberg?

Jakob Silfverberg pronunciation: How to pronounce Jakob Silfverberg in Swedish

And about that creek/brook thing. Yeah, the difficulty is that there's so much regional variance. I tend to think that a creek is bigger than a brook and you can't usually jump over it...but I guess many would disagree. But what I was going for is indeed "a small river", which is what "å" is.

 

[Kalv]

So the Swedish G is like Latvian J

 

[Elvs]

So the Swedish G is like Latvian J

Defenitely not always, but in the word "Berg" the G becomes a J, yes. In "Landeskog" the G stays a G.

 

[Goose of Reason]

The Swedish letter Å is pronounced how Americans would pronounce the O in "Fork".

The letter Å can also form a word on its own. There's no real English translation but it basically means a very small river.

Basically his last name translates to "river mountain".

Has nothing go do with a Ducks or Swedish player, but I put Kotkaniemi into Google translate one day and it told me his last name translated to "eagle peninsula" which I love. Jesperi Eaglepeninsula.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

So the Swedish G is like Latvian J

What's a Latvian J? Sounds like a weird frontier era ranch. These dogies are property of the Latvian J!

 

[Kalv]

What's a Latvian J? Sounds like a weird frontier era ranch. These dogies are property of the Latvian J!

haha no it`s just a sound and I`m not sure what example to give. I think it`s like ''y'' in ''May''

 

[Mortal Wombat]

haha no it`s just a sound and I`m not sure what example to give. I think it`s like ''y'' in ''May''

How about like the "y" in yellow? Would that be close? That works for the Swedish/Finnish j.

 

[The Noot]

Defenitely not always, but in the word "Berg" the G becomes a J, yes. In "Landeskog" the G stays a G.

So it's a "G" after vowels and "J" otherwise?

Or am I jumping to conclusions here?

 

[Kalv]

How about like the "y" in yellow? Would that be close? That works for the Swedish/Finnish j.

Yeah that comparison is also perfect

 

[KeepItDeep]

Not sure, but there's no match får Å on google translate. There's also no synonyms for Å in the Swedish language, but I think it's just a really old Swedish word for river. Today it's used to describe small rivers, at least where I live, so it could be a dialectal thing. A creek/brook we would basically only call something that one could jump over. The Swedish word for that is Bäck, as in Nicklas Bäckström

It's so hilarious for me that the word "creek" comes up in the midst of a discussion about proper pronunciation, because most of my relatives in the Pacific Northwest pronounce creek as "crick". Drives me crazy. Left Coast hillbilly.

 

[Dryish]

It's so hilarious for me that the word "creek" comes up in the midst of a discussion about proper pronunciation, because most of my relatives in the Pacific Northwest pronounce creek as "crick". Drives me crazy. Left Coast hillbilly.

Cricking peasants those people.

 

[KeepItDeep]

Cricking peasants those people.

Fookin'eh!

 

[Vinegar Strokes]

I warsh my clothes in the crick then hang 'em from the ruff!

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

So it's a "G" after vowels and "J" otherwise?

Or am I jumping to conclusions here?

Don't gump to conclusions. Yust trust jor instincts.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

I was looking at some of his stats. he showed improvement every year in the AHL. his production went up with more ice time after being traded to the Oilers...hopefully this kid is just one of those that just needs a consistent role and ice time to make it. His goals per game in the AHL, went way up year by year. Hope it works out

 

[The Noot]

Don't gump to conclusions. Yust trust jor instincts.

Fun fact, "gump" literally means jump in the Swiss German dialect that is spoken where I live.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Fun fact, "gump" literally means jump in the Swiss German dialect that is spoken where I live.

Leaping lizards!

 

[Elvs]

So it's a "G" after vowels and "J" otherwise?

Or am I jumping to conclusions here?

I think you are jumping to conclusions, but in most cases I think you are right. It's our language, we just know, but we don't know, you know?

If a word starts with G it almost always stays a G. The names Gustav and Gabriel aren't pronounced Justav or Jabriel lol. Then there are other instances where the "G" becomes a sch-sound, just as in the english language. The 2nd G in "Garage" for example.

Swedish is a close relative to English, and so many words are similar. But our grammatic rules are often inconsistant, as you will see in this comedic video:



Right in the beginning of the video, the host says the letters Å, Ä and Ö. So right there is how you start Åbergs name

 

[Mortal Wombat]

I think you are jumping to conclusions, but in most cases I think you are right. It's our language, we just know, but we don't know, you know?

If a word starts with G it almost always stays a G. The names Gustav and Gabriel aren't pronounced Justav or Jabriel lol.

 

[Dryish]

Okay, I officially lost it at that. Best thread.

 

[Kalv]

Even if Aberg will dissapoint on ice, this waiver pickup certainly already have payed off in HFB

 

[tigerman67]

Okay, I officially lost it at that. Best thread.

And we haven’t even started discussing the “sh”-sound. There are actually 65 ways of spelling that in Swedish language. Not joking here.

PS: Still, Finnish is a few steps further up in complexity (although they are consistent in spelling/pronunciation): depressingfinland.tumblr.com/post/65222506844/what-do-you-mean-finnish-is-difficult