WeThreeKings
Habs cup - its in the BAG
He got Danault for next to nothing. We're only starting to see his full potential.
Yes a 3C
He got Danault for next to nothing. We're only starting to see his full potential.
Yes a 3C
Yes a 3C
While i think you're right, i still think the center position is the most needed
I mean look at the ones we already have. We won't go far in the playoffs with them.
Yes a 3C
So the guy who has played first-line center on a 100+ point team for 80 per cent of the season and who just turned 24..so has in fact not even entered his prime yet...is a 3C and that's it..because to say otherwise ..would go against your latest lament about the Habs never drafting or trading, for a top two center. You said it...so it must be fact forever more..never mind the logic and nightly proof that Danault can handle a top-two center role ALREADY..that would mean you are wrong....so we must accept the "alternative fact" that since you say "Yes a 3C" with no explanation or reasoning besides your blessed evaluation skills..that that's all Danault will ever be. Should we pass the memo on to Julien and Bergevin? I have a feeling they may think otherwise...but hey..they're garbage anyway...clueless.
Never mind that his 40 points puts him in the top 60 points-wise for NHL centers while providing one of the most competitive, intelligent two-way games in the league while still not being in his prime...he's a third liner forever..because you, WTK, states as much. Case closed.
Would be great for this to stay on the discussion of this draft..but as per usual it gets waylaid by whining about the GM and his inadequacies..just like 75 percent of the other threads on here.
OK...I have vented. Can it get back to track about the draft? I believe there are plenty of Bergevin threads on the main board.
Besides...Habs don't have to worry about a top-two center...got one down on the farm fight now who will be one - de la Rose. There...I'm sure that will get ignored.
Ha ha!
Given the usage of Danault and the fact he gets to play with our two best wingers frequently, his 40 points aren't very telling. That's very weak production for someone used to the extent he is used.
I always thought he had 3rd line upside... And chances are, had he been playing on the 3rd line all year long, he wouldn't have given you 30 points... In the Eller ballpark at best. Make of that what you will. He's on the first line by default since Julien apparently prefers Galchenyuk on the wing, not because he's a worthy 1st line center. Let alone on a team aspiring for a cup.
Danault - Plekanec - Shaw - Mitchell, I mean, come on. That's as dreadful as it gets for a playoff team. It hurts to even type that out. We do have decent wingers, I suppose.
40 points with good wingers is not that impressive. 40 points, none of which come from thePP... that's easily 2nd line production
Ideal center depth for this team would be to get someone like Duchene and go Duchene/Galchenyuk/Danault as the top 3 with whoever you want to rotate in on the 4th. Get rid of Turtleneck and trade for or sign a scoring winger if possible in free agency.
So the guy who has played first-line center on a 100+ point team for 80 per cent of the season and who just turned 24..so has in fact not even entered his prime yet...is a 3C and that's it..because to say otherwise ..would go against your latest lament about the Habs never drafting or trading, for a top two center. You said it...so it must be fact forever more..never mind the logic and nightly proof that Danault can handle a top-two center role ALREADY..that would mean you are wrong....so we must accept the "alternative fact" that since you say "Yes a 3C" with no explanation or reasoning besides your blessed evaluation skills..that that's all Danault will ever be. Should we pass the memo on to Julien and Bergevin? I have a feeling they may think otherwise...but hey..they're garbage anyway...clueless.
Never mind that his 40 points puts him in the top 60 points-wise for NHL centers while providing one of the most competitive, intelligent two-way games in the league while still not being in his prime...he's a third liner forever..because you, WTK, states as much. Case closed.
Would be great for this to stay on the discussion of this draft..but as per usual it gets waylaid by whining about the GM and his inadequacies..just like 75 percent of the other threads on here.
OK...I have vented. Can it get back to track about the draft? I believe there are plenty of Bergevin threads on the main board.
Besides...Habs don't have to worry about a top-two center...got one down on the farm fight now who will be one - de la Rose. There...I'm sure that will get ignored.
Ha ha!
Given the usage of Danault and the fact he gets to play with our two best wingers frequently, his 40 points aren't very telling. That's very weak production for someone used to the extent he is used.
I always thought he had 3rd line upside... And chances are, had he been playing on the 3rd line all year long, he wouldn't have given you 30 points... In the Eller ballpark at best. Make of that what you will. He's on the first line by default since Julien apparently prefers Galchenyuk on the wing, not because he's a worthy 1st line center. Let alone on a team aspiring for a cup.
Danault - Plekanec - Shaw - Mitchell, I mean, come on. That's as dreadful as it gets for a playoff team. It hurts to even type that out. We do have decent wingers, I suppose.
He's far far better than Eller. And he wasn't on the first line all year. I looked at his game logs and the TOI didn't go up to 1st line numbers until about game 26 or 27.
If you look at other top scoring Cs he's not far off some pretty decent names. He brings more than just points as well. As long as that line is productive which it has been I really don't care who gets the points. he's not a passenger on that line. He isn't a #1C but possibly a solid #2.
He's far far better than Eller. And he wasn't on the first line all year. I looked at his game logs and the TOI didn't go up to 1st line numbers until about game 26 or 27.
If you look at other top scoring Cs he's not far off some pretty decent names. He brings more than just points as well. As long as that line is productive which it has been I really don't care who gets the points. he's not a passenger on that line. He isn't a #1C but possibly a solid #2.
So the guy who has played first-line center on a 100+ point team for 80 per cent of the season and who just turned 24..so has in fact not even entered his prime yet...is a 3C and that's it..because to say otherwise ..would go against your latest lament about the Habs never drafting or trading, for a top two center. You said it...so it must be fact forever more..never mind the logic and nightly proof that Danault can handle a top-two center role ALREADY..that would mean you are wrong....so we must accept the "alternative fact" that since you say "Yes a 3C" with no explanation or reasoning besides your blessed evaluation skills..that that's all Danault will ever be. Should we pass the memo on to Julien and Bergevin? I have a feeling they may think otherwise...but hey..they're garbage anyway...clueless.
Never mind that his 40 points puts him in the top 60 points-wise for NHL centers while providing one of the most competitive, intelligent two-way games in the league while still not being in his prime...he's a third liner forever..because you, WTK, states as much. Case closed.
Would be great for this to stay on the discussion of this draft..but as per usual it gets waylaid by whining about the GM and his inadequacies..just like 75 percent of the other threads on here.
OK...I have vented. Can it get back to track about the draft? I believe there are plenty of Bergevin threads on the main board.
Besides...Habs don't have to worry about a top-two center...got one down on the farm fight now who will be one - de la Rose. There...I'm sure that will get ignored.
Ha ha!
So the guy who has played first-line center on a 100+ point team for 80 per cent of the season and who just turned 24..so has in fact not even entered his prime yet...is a 3C and that's it..because to say otherwise ..would go against your latest lament about the Habs never drafting or trading, for a top two center. You said it...so it must be fact forever more..never mind the logic and nightly proof that Danault can handle a top-two center role ALREADY..that would mean you are wrong....so we must accept the "alternative fact" that since you say "Yes a 3C" with no explanation or reasoning besides your blessed evaluation skills..that that's all Danault will ever be. Should we pass the memo on to Julien and Bergevin? I have a feeling they may think otherwise...but hey..they're garbage anyway...clueless.
Never mind that his 40 points puts him in the top 60 points-wise for NHL centers while providing one of the most competitive, intelligent two-way games in the league while still not being in his prime...he's a third liner forever..because you, WTK, states as much. Case closed.
Would be great for this to stay on the discussion of this draft..but as per usual it gets waylaid by whining about the GM and his inadequacies..just like 75 percent of the other threads on here.
OK...I have vented. Can it get back to track about the draft? I believe there are plenty of Bergevin threads on the main board.
Besides...Habs don't have to worry about a top-two center...got one down on the farm fight now who will be one - de la Rose. There...I'm sure that will get ignored.
Ha ha!
It's disingenuous to claim that Shaw had been one of the best forwards - clearly he was getting space and room because other teams had to deal with Kane and Toews and Hossa and Panarin.Andrew Shaw in the past six playoff years ahs been one of Chicago's four best forwards..I have a feeling he's going to be fine at center..Danault..made for the playoffs...Plekanec Ott and <itchell? wily competitive vets. I don't think it's as big an issue as some are stating. Shaw is a playoff dynamo..stay tuned and watch..his ppg ALWAYS go up.
OK..anyone got a draft question.seeing that it's a ...draft thread?
I'm not worried about Danault being the Habs' 1C for the playoffs because he just fits real well with Pacioretty and Radulov. He's not what you expect from a 1C in the sense that he doesn't carry his line. He's a complimentary player but his chemistry with our team's best wingers is more important to me than him being your typical 1C.
I like Danault with Patches, but think the team would be better off splitting Patcioretty and Radulov to get a more balanced attack:
Pacioretty-Danault-Shaw
Lehkonen-Galchenyuk-Radulov
Byron-Plekanec-Gallagher
King-Ott-Martinsen
Benn-Weber
Markov-Petry
Beaulieu-Emelin
Has nothing to do with Eller.I'm getting a "cultist" vibe from reading some of the negative comments regarding Danault's usage and his production.
Danault earned his time on the top lines and has been a strong contributor to the success of the lines he played with. To say otherwise is just bad faith.
The kid has already a 40+ points season under his belt and seems to be still improving. Meanwhile Eller at 28 has a single 30 season under his belt...
For the first 25 games, until the injury to Galchenyuk in LA, Danault was not on the first line. When Galchenyuk came back he played some games on the first line, then Therrien placed Danault on the first again, then when Julien came in, again he removed Danault from the first and placed Galchenyuk there, but again Danault regained the top spot. So overall I think Daunault was not on the first line for something like 35 games. So it is false to say he played the whole season with Max and Rad, or to say that he played 80% of the games on the first line. In fact he played on the first line for about 60% of the games. So given it was a new role for him, 40 points is very good. Also, he was not always on the first wave of PP and in the first 30 games of the season he was not on the PP at all. So again, under those circumstances 40 points is very good for an emerging 24 years old player. Add to that the fact that he is very good defensively. He is without a doubt a top-6 center and a pure steal for Bergevin.