Proposal: Petry to TOR (trade deadline)

[Gainesvillain]

Petry's been pretty damn solid since Weber went down - more than earning his paycheque. He'd look really, really good on the Leafs D, which is their achilles heel at the moment.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Lol Petry. Thanks for the OT goal Petry.

 

[Just Linda]

Lol Petry. Thanks for the OT goal Petry.

Lehkonen missed his coverage

The rest of the game showed why Toronto needs Petry

 

[HOPE]

Lol Petry. Thanks for the OT goal Petry.

huh?? it was a bad change by drouin and a bad cover by lek i dont know what you're trying to say...

 

[A1LeafNation]

his job was to take the pass away.

Lehkonen missed his coverage

The rest of the game showed why Toronto needs Petry

huh?? it was a bad change by drouin and a bad cover by lek i dont know what you're trying to say...

 

[HOPE]

his job was to take the pass away.

Watch the replay when the plays start its a 2v2 and Petry communicates with lehkonen to take the other man, He underestimated Matthews speed and he splitted both.

 

[A1LeafNation]

Watch the replay when the plays start its a 2v2 and Petry communicates with lehkonen to take the other man, He underestimated Matthews speed and he splitted both.

marleau got him the puck, he should have blocked it

 

[Danny1237]

I'm sorry but the Caps, Pens, Chicago, Kings, Boston, Detroit. They all had a terribly better D squad then the current Toronto Team. Toronto Really really needs a better D core, we even saw it during the last 2 playoffs.... I don't know how you think you can win the Cup with Gardiner/zaitsev as your second pairing lmao.

Well Pens D-core in their second win had less talent than the current Toronto D, not really debatable. Trying to say otherwise is just revisionism and saying they are better because they won. They also took that D against the deepest D in the league, you really can't imagine much more of a disparity in blueline talent in a final than Pens Preds that year.

Also you are missing the point. I wasn't saying that Toronto would win with their current D, just refuting the statement that a team NEEDs an elite #1 D to win the cup. There is a big chasm between improving a weak D, and finding a D who would get yearly Norris votes. Those teams you just mentioned, the Caps and Pens, neither had an Elite #1 D when they won.

The Leafs D is their weakness, they will need to overcome that if they want to win. Whether it's because they improve team D, improve their blueline, or come up with a game plan that allows them to mitigate that disadvantage while maximizing their advantages over their opponents.

Picking something a team doesn't have and saying they can't win without is silly. It's not like we are going to go back and take Pittsburgh's cup and say "Sorry, didn't realize that you didn't have a very talented blueline, you are now disqualified from winning"

The great thing about the cap is that everyone has a weakness. It doesn't mean that a team like Toronto will win, but it does mean that some imperfect team will figure out a way to maximize their strengths more than their opponents. There are about 8-10 teams this year that deserve to call themselves either contenders, or fringe contenders at least, and the Leafs are one of them.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

Well Pens D-core in their second win had less talent than the current Toronto D, not really debatable.

Stopped reading there.
I have zero clue how you can say that Schultz/mattaa/Dumoulin are worse than your current D core ?
did we watched the same games during the last 2 years ?
only good thing about toronto D core is Dermott lmao.

I can go on an on an on on Corsi, D plays, +/- , possession, first pass, etc.
Toronto is not even on the same level of Pitts D core.

Toronto fans are so freaking out of touch wtf.

 

[Danny1237]

Stopped reading there.
I have zero clue how you can say that Schultz/mattaa/Dumoulin are worse than your current D core ?
did we watched the same games during the last 2 years ?
only good thing about toronto D core is Dermott lmao.

I can go on an on an on on Corsi, D plays, +/- , possession, first pass, etc.
Toronto is not even on the same level of Pitts D core.

Toronto fans are so freaking out of touch wtf.

I would doubt you could go on an on about Corsi, D Plays, posession first pass, entries, exits etc, because if you did and still came to the conclusion that Schultz/Maata/Dumoulin are more talented than Rielly/Gardiner/Dermott you will have missed something.

It isn't Delusion, the Leafs have one of the better Left Sides on their D in the league, but also probably the absolute worst RHD. It makes them exploitable, and is no doubt going to be the weakness any team that beats them will need to exploit to do so.

Honestly, if you think that calling Toronto a legit contender, not a favourite, but a team amount that is at the very least in that group of 8-10 teams with a legitimate shot of winning it with the right bounces, it is you who is out of touch.

It is too bad that you stopped reading, because at no point did I call you out of touch or try to insinuate that anything you said was laughable, despite your insistence on doing so. I expressed an opinion like an adult, and backed it up methodically, whether you agree or not. You did not. You said you could do it, but feel no need to, despite the fact that you are on a message board that is literally devoted to the idea of discussing hockey in a way of creating content.

You added no content. I know it's a hard time for habs fans, but you don't have to resort to being a troll, that's a choice.

 

[HockeyDBspecialist]

I would doubt you could go on an on about Corsi, D Plays, posession first pass, entries, exits etc, because if you did and still came to the conclusion that Schultz/Maata/Dumoulin are more talented than Rielly/Gardiner/Dermott you will have missed something.

It isn't Delusion, the Leafs have one of the better Left Sides on their D in the league, but also probably the absolute worst RHD. It makes them exploitable, and is no doubt going to be the weakness any team that beats them will need to exploit to do so.

Honestly, if you think that calling Toronto a legit contender, not a favourite, but a team amount that is at the very least in that group of 8-10 teams with a legitimate shot of winning it with the right bounces, it is you who is out of touch.

It is too bad that you stopped reading, because at no point did I call you out of touch or try to insinuate that anything you said was laughable, despite your insistence on doing so. I expressed an opinion like an adult, and backed it up methodically, whether you agree or not. You did not. You said you could do it, but feel no need to, despite the fact that you are on a message board that is literally devoted to the idea of discussing hockey in a way of creating content.

You added no content. I know it's a hard time for habs fans, but you don't have to resort to being a troll, that's a choice.

Stop going with your own words, it's not about "talents'' it's about what they bring when they play.

Toronto D core is good on the PP , they don't bring much else


The leafs have one of the best LHD in the league ? what ? I'm done with you , you are way too clueless to have a real conversation. I really don't know in what World is Gardiner a TOP LHD in the league hahahahahah

 

[Danny1237]

Stop going with your own words, it's not about "talents'' it's about what they bring when they play.

Toronto D core is good on the PP , they don't bring much else


The leafs have one of the best LHD in the league ? what ? I'm done with you , you are way too clueless to have a real conversation. I really don't know in what World is Gardiner a TOP LHD in the league hahahahahah

Sorry, didn't realize "talent" was my own word. You probably aren't familiar with the term, which makes sense.

You are done with me? I didn't realize you accomplished anything, usually you need to make a point at least once in all of your ramblings to be "done".

In any event, I am not sure why I am using logic, you are obviously a troll, and unlikely to ever make a point, but here goes.

The Leafs LHD all exit the zone extremely well, they also have a positive impact on shot differentials at 5 on 5. So saying they only have an impact on the PP is just misinformed. Toronto gave up the 3rd fewest Goals against in the Eastern Conference last year (11th in the league). Some of that was driven by Andersen being very good, but their forwards weren't great defensively, and their RD were easily league worst. If Toronto's LD was as bad as you make it out, none of this would have been remotely possible no matter how good Andersen was.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Leafs are getting a bonafide #2 dman on a good deal, my ask would be Dermott + a 2nd.

The Leafs can't subtract from their defense, not to mention Dermott is young, cheap and on the rise.
Non-starter for Leafs.

 

[Critical13]

I would love Petry.

Might make more sense at the deadline, but maybe that Habs won't want to take that step back.

Dermott doesn't make sense, we need him now.

It would need to be futures/prospects/Johnsson or Kapanen type deal. I don't want to deal our 1st but that's the type of guy I would do it for.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I would love Petry.

Might make more sense at the deadline, but maybe that Habs won't want to take that step back.

Dermott doesn't make sense, we need him now.

It would need to be futures/prospects/Johnsson or Kapanen type deal. I don't want to deal our 1st but that's the type of guy I would do it for.

Petry for a late 1st and one of Liljegren or Sandin gets the conversation started.

 

[Critical13]

Petry for a late 1st and one of Liljegren or Sandin gets the conversation started.

We're good, no thanks.

We need those ELCs.

 

[Albus Dumbledore]

I like Petry and would add him on the leafs forsure but some of the asks here are absurd.

 

[sansabri]

I would love Petry.

Might make more sense at the deadline, but maybe that Habs won't want to take that step back.

Dermott doesn't make sense, we need him now.

It would need to be futures/prospects/Johnsson or Kapanen type deal. I don't want to deal our 1st but that's the type of guy I would do it for.

Zero interest in depth. If whatever you're offering doesn't sting a little, you're not offering much.

 

[Brock Radunske]

Zero interest in depth. If whatever you're offering doesn't sting a little, you're not offering much.

Not that I'm suggesting any offer, but the market value for a dman like Petry would be a 1st + a decent young player/prospect.
If you're expecting it to hurt more than that, then I doubt he'll be moved anywhere.

 

[sansabri]

Not that I'm suggesting any offer, but the market value for a dman like Petry would be a 1st + a decent young player/prospect.
If you're expecting it to hurt more than that, then I doubt he'll be moved anywhere.

You're a divisional rival. Wake up.

 

[Brock Radunske]

You're a divisional rival. Wake up.

Right. Toronto just HAS to have Petry so they'll pay the "divisional tax" to get him.
If he costs more than a 1st and a prospect, then the Leafs will likely inquire about Tanev or Braun and happily go about their day.

 

[sansabri]

Right. Toronto just HAS to have Petry so they'll pay the "divisional tax" to get him.

No one cares if you don't get Petry.

 

[BigHabs]

I know Leafs fans aren't too happy with Brown's play. There's got to be a way a deal around Petry - Nylander.

2nd round pick
Prospect - Montreal has stocked up on a lot of them
Jeff Petry
Charlie Lindgren

for

William Nylander
Connor Brown - help offset salary

 

[Brock Radunske]

No one cares if you don't get Petry.

Exactly!

 

[Brock Radunske]

I know Leafs fans aren't too happy with Brown's play. There's got to be a way a deal around Petry - Nylander.

2nd round pick
Prospect - Montreal has stocked up on a lot of them
Jeff Petry
Charlie Lindgren

for

William Nylander
Connor Brown - help offset salary

No. It's too much quantity and not enough quality.