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not the first ive heard of karrlsson indeed wanting to stay.. why is that so hard to believe#2 and #3 are clearly fake news
not the first ive heard of karrlsson indeed wanting to stay.. why is that so hard to believe#2 and #3 are clearly fake news
Get out of the house once in a while. The movement is led entirely by long-time fans, and hardcore ones at that.
Proof or hearsay??Ok, this is just my opinion based on minimal observations....
Karlsson did not want to stay in Ottawa, why? He refused to even talk to management (i dont buy that whole we havent talked in a year thing, come on it takes two to talk, speak up lol)
He clearly did not like Hoffman, and then apparently he dealt with it terribly in the locker room, acting like a little kid, his wife bulllies hoffman and his wife out of town, either way you look at it. There was no evidence or even charges laid.
If I was on that team I wouldn't want a captain who a) couldn't even stand upo for himslf or his team or even talk to management and b) clearly has a hard time with dealing with other people and locker room situations.
Ok, this is just my opinion based on minimal observations....
Karlsson did not want to stay in Ottawa, why? He refused to even talk to management (i dont buy that whole we havent talked in a year thing, come on it takes two to talk, speak up lol)
He clearly did not like Hoffman, and then apparently he dealt with it terribly in the locker room, acting like a little kid, his wife bulllies hoffman and his wife out of town, either way you look at it. There was no evidence or even charges laid.
If I was on that team I wouldn't want a captain who a) couldn't even stand upo for himslf or his team or even talk to management and b) clearly has a hard time with dealing with other people and locker room situations.
You might have something here.Ok, this is just my opinion based on minimal observations....
Karlsson did not want to stay in Ottawa, why? He refused to even talk to management (i dont buy that whole we havent talked in a year thing, come on it takes two to talk, speak up lol)
He clearly did not like Hoffman, and then apparently he dealt with it terribly in the locker room, acting like a little kid, his wife bulllies hoffman and his wife out of town, either way you look at it. There was no evidence or even charges laid.
If I was on that team I wouldn't want a captain who a) couldn't even stand upo for himslf or his team or even talk to management and b) clearly has a hard time with dealing with other people and locker room situations.
Ok, this is just my opinion based on minimal observations....
Karlsson did not want to stay in Ottawa, why? He refused to even talk to management (i dont buy that whole we havent talked in a year thing, come on it takes two to talk, speak up lol)
He clearly did not like Hoffman, and then apparently he dealt with it terribly in the locker room, acting like a little kid, his wife bulllies hoffman and his wife out of town, either way you look at it. There was no evidence or even charges laid.
If I was on that team I wouldn't want a captain who a) couldn't even stand upo for himslf or his team or even talk to management and b) clearly has a hard time with dealing with other people and locker room situations.
So theoretically Karlsson could wait until next off-season and re-sign under a new ownership?
He clearly did not like Hoffman, and then apparently he dealt with it terribly in the locker room, acting like a little kid, his wife bulllies hoffman and his wife out of town, either way you look at it.
Well I have no reason to not believe Karlsson. The management group has been proven to have lied on record so there's precedent there from other things.
As for Karlsson not talking to management because "it takes 2"... Remember this goes through agents.. it's negotiation.. it's hardball. Karlsson said what he wanted. Dorion offered less. What else is there to say? An agent's best move would be to not say anythinf and wait until Ottawa comes around on it's own. Karlsson is heading into UFA as the most sought after Defensman... They hold all the cards.. what was he going to do? Call Ottawa back and say they are willing to take less? Or call Ottawa back and say.. hey just a reminder.. we want full value. Doesn't make a difference. Not talking doesn't mean not communicating.
EK65 said, on November 30th “When I go to market, I’m going to get what I’m worth, and it’s going to be no less, no matter where I’m going”
His answer was in response to what Drew Doughty had said a couple of nights earlier.
So with that statement, he clearly signaled to the Senators, that he was not going to sign an extension ......... because he clearly stated his intention to "go to market" AKA becoming an UFA July 1st 2019.
He also had a pretty good indication (Turris trade) that Ottawa was not going to sign any player to a long term extension, or contract, when he said "no matter where I'm going"
Drew Doughty set the Bar for DMen when he signed for 11 Million for 8 seasons (with a 10 Million signing bonus due July 1st 2019)
Ottawa reportedly offered his the same money and term , but no signing bonus.
He or his agent, according to Ottawa management, did not "get back to them" about the offer ........ so they pretty much had no other choice than to trade him.
Most people here see this as an 100% Ottawa Senators decision, and that EK65 is an innocent little lamb that was taken to market and slaughtered ........... But he had a had in this trade fro the get go, with those coordinated statements that He and Drew Doughty put out in the Media in November .......... they and their agent probably rehearsed all summer long, as to how they were going to set things up for their upcoming contract extension negotiations.
Erik Karlsson says he wants ‘market value’ on his next contract. How much is that?
Better off not to reply to the gas lighting and just ignore it.Seriously? This old quote?
Consider this: Karlsson would have signed here under any other management than the current one. They're the ones that messed this up, not Erik.
Better off not to reply to the gas lighting and just ignore it.
His response seemed more of a response to the owner meddling in and forcing one of his best friends in the dressing room out than it does about Doughty.EK65 said, on November 30th “When I go to market, I’m going to get what I’m worth, and it’s going to be no less, no matter where I’m going”
His answer was in response to what Drew Doughty had said a couple of nights earlier.
So with that statement, he clearly signaled to the Senators, that he was not going to sign an extension ......... because he clearly stated his intention to "go to market" AKA becoming an UFA July 1st 2019.
He also had a pretty good indication (Turris trade) that Ottawa was not going to sign any player to a long term extension, or contract, when he said "no matter where I'm going"
Drew Doughty set the Bar for DMen when he signed for 11 Million for 8 seasons (with a 10 Million signing bonus due July 1st 2019)
Ottawa reportedly offered his the same money and term , but no signing bonus.
He or his agent, according to Ottawa management, did not "get back to them" about the offer ........ so they pretty much had no other choice than to trade him.
Most people here see this as an 100% Ottawa Senators decision, and that EK65 is an innocent little lamb that was taken to market and slaughtered ........... But he had a had in this trade fro the get go, with those coordinated statements that He and Drew Doughty put out in the Media in November .......... they and their agent probably rehearsed all summer long, as to how they were going to set things up for their upcoming contract extension negotiations.
Erik Karlsson says he wants ‘market value’ on his next contract. How much is that?
True enough. Kind of crazy how like, 5 posters who refuse to admit fault on the part of management are getting everyone else to respond so much. Waste of time really.
EK65 said, on November 30th “When I go to market, I’m going to get what I’m worth, and it’s going to be no less, no matter where I’m going”
His answer was in response to what Drew Doughty had said a couple of nights earlier.
So with that statement, he clearly signaled to the Senators, that he was not going to sign an extension ......... because he clearly stated his intention to "go to market" AKA becoming an UFA July 1st 2019.
He also had a pretty good indication (Turris trade) that Ottawa was not going to sign any player to a long term extension, or contract, when he said "no matter where I'm going"
Drew Doughty set the Bar for DMen when he signed for 11 Million for 8 seasons (with a 10 Million signing bonus due July 1st 2019)
Ottawa reportedly offered his the same money and term , but no signing bonus.
He or his agent, according to Ottawa management, did not "get back to them" about the offer ........ so they pretty much had no other choice than to trade him.
Most people here see this as an 100% Ottawa Senators decision, and that EK65 is an innocent little lamb that was taken to market and slaughtered ........... But he had a had in this trade fro the get go, with those coordinated statements that He and Drew Doughty put out in the Media in November .......... they and their agent probably rehearsed all summer long, as to how they were going to set things up for their upcoming contract extension negotiations.
Erik Karlsson says he wants ‘market value’ on his next contract. How much is that?
Seriously? This old quote?
Consider this: Karlsson would have signed here under any other management than the current one. They're the ones that messed this up, not Erik.
If only there was a way to ignore them...
You can't back that up, it's just speculation on your part. EK65 never hinted at it, even if he thought that way ........ we can only take what he said on the record, as facts.
This "Old Quote" was the opening salvo from EK65, for the upcoming extension negotiations.
This set the stage for what eventually happened when Training Camp opened.
Let's see if he plays out the Season, and does what he said he was going to do, back in November ......... and that is, in other words, to become an UFA.