Patrick

[renberg]

I don’t think that Patrick could be sent down to LV. He’d have to go back to his Junior team since this is his draft +2 year.

 

[Striiker]

So you're telling me Hakstol was an elite defensive coach?

Nope, just like the scoring last year doesn’t make him an elite offensive coach.

It means we have some very talented players who carried him.

 

[Dumpster Flyers]

Nope, just like the scoring last year doesn’t make him an elite offensive coach.

It means we have some very talented players who carried him.

So you're telling me MacDonald and Hagg are very talented players, and Hakstol was smart to play them so much?

 

[Striiker]

So you're telling me MacDonald and Hagg are very talented players, and Hakstol was smart to play them so much?

Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying.

MacDonald and Hagg are very talented players.

Yes

Correct.

 

[Dumpster Flyers]

Yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying.

MacDonald and Hagg are very talented players.

Yes

Correct.

Too bad the Flyers fired him. He made some great usage decisions

 

[MacDonald4MVP]

I don’t think that Patrick could be sent down to LV. He’d have to go back to his Junior team since this is his draft +2 year.

Isn't that only for player born after 20/12 though?

 

[Striiker]

Too bad the Flyers fired him. He made some great usage decisions

Can you at least try harder? This is just a lazy attempt.

 

[Dumpster Flyers]

Can you at least try harder? This is just a lazy attempt.

What? I'm agreeing with you this time, for the most part. Okay... maybe Hakstol's system sucked, but could you imagine the Flyers with a coach that wasn't ****ing things up? If they were a top 5 defensive team in the NHL using objective metrics, without Hakstol they'd be #1 in the league with a bullet. That's how good this D group is.

It's common sense to stick with them for the foreseeable future, so what Fletcher needs to do is trade Myers for a forward. He's not going to do any good languishing on the Phantoms.

 

[Striiker]

What? I'm agreeing with you this time, for the most part. Okay... maybe Hakstol's system sucked, but could you imagine the Flyers with a coach that wasn't ****ing things up? If they were a top 5 defensive team in the NHL using objective metrics, without Hakstol they'd be #1 in the league with a bullet. That's how good this D group is.

It's common sense to stick with them for the foreseeable future, so what Fletcher needs to do is trade Myers for a forward. He's not going to do any good languishing on the Phantoms.

OK, this was a little more effort but still painfully transparent.

 

[wankstifier]

Imagine hating Nolan Patrick and loving Norm MacDonald

 

[Rebels57]

Lindblom - Patrick - Voracek looked good together again, as I expected. Stick with this trio.

 

[Striiker]

Lindblom - Patrick - Voracek looked good together again, as I expected. Stick with this trio.

If I had a nickle for every time something worked, that us "mere fans" knew would work (after way too long of the coach avoiding it), I'd be able to buy the team.

Lindblom with Patrick and Voracek

TK with Giroux and Couts

Provorov and Ghost together

Sanheim getting more playing time

And so on...

 

[Dumpster Flyers]

Imagine hating Nolan Patrick and loving Norm MacDonald

I don't hate Patrick, I just think he's a bad hockey player.

 

[Foggy14]

Lindblom - Patrick - Voracek looked good together again, as I expected. Stick with this trio.

Yeah, that's what I saw, too.

Patrick is a smart hockey player, and the team looked better with him in there today.

I'm disappointed that the offensive game he was showing at the end of last season hasn't bloomed this year, but he plays a good defensive game and the offense should come in time.

 

[Rebels57]

Yeah, that's what I saw, too.

Patrick is a smart hockey player, and the team looked better with him in there today.

I'm disappointed that the offensive game he was showing at the end of last season hasn't bloomed this year, but he plays a good defensive game and the offense should come in time.

Hes following a similar path Coots did oddly enough.

 

[Striiker]

Hes following a similar path Coots did oddly enough.

Scored more points, in less games, in his rookie year, even after coming off an injury.

He's not as good as Couturier defensively, but he has more offensive potential. Especially his wrist shot.

 

[TCTC]

Hes following a similar path Coots did oddly enough.

Yeah, I see the similarities. It's a little disappointing, though. This team needs another Giroux (or at least close to it), not another Couturier.

I still have faith in Patrick being our 1C at some point in the future. I'm just not sure he'll be that offensive dynamo I was hoping for anymore.

 

[Dumpster Flyers]

Scored more points, in less games, in his rookie year, even after coming off an injury.

He's not as good as Couturier defensively, but he has more offensive potential. Especially his wrist shot.

Key difference being Couturier played a shutdown role with Max Talbot and Zac Rinaldo, while Patrick was gifted sheltered minutes with a PPG player. Saying they're on a similar career path is asinine.

 

[Striiker]

Key difference being Couturier played a shutdown role with Max Talbot and Zac Rinaldo, while Patrick was gifted sheltered minutes with a PPG player. Saying they're on a similar career path is asinine.

You’re right. He’s a bust.

Good call.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Key difference being Couturier played a shutdown role with Max Talbot and Zac Rinaldo, while Patrick was gifted sheltered minutes with a PPG player. Saying they're on a similar career path is asinine.

Great post. On Bizarro World HF.

 

[Dumpster Flyers]

You’re right. He’s a bust.

Good call.

I didn't say that

I just don't think he's an NHL-caliber player yet (maybe low-end, which is why he's still on a lottery team). At least he's still young and has time to turn things around

 

[Striiker]

I didn't say that

I just don't think he's an NHL-caliber player yet (maybe low-end, which is why he's still on a lottery team). At least he's still young and has time to turn things around

So he’s a bad player who wouldn’t be on a non-lottery team?

How about a playoff team that paced for 108 points over the 2nd half of the season (exactly 41 games from January 7th, 2018?until the end of the year). Meanwhile, he paced for 44 points during that same time period, while playing under 15 minutes per game, and looked great while doing it?

How about that?

 

[Rebels57]

Yeah, I see the similarities. It's a little disappointing, though. This team needs another Giroux (or at least close to it), not another Couturier.

I still have faith in Patrick being our 1C at some point in the future. I'm just not sure he'll be that offensive dynamo I was hoping for anymore.

We have another Giroux coming, Morgan Frost.

 

[TCTC]

We have another Giroux coming, Morgan Frost.

Hopefully.

 

[Striiker]

We have another Giroux coming, Morgan Frost.

Who, by the way, is still tied for the tournament lead in scoring, despite being on the 2nd PP, playing 14 min per game, and being eliminated from the tournament before the semifinals.