Patrick

[04hockey]

think playing 20+ minutes/game @ LV would help his development and growth instead of 10/12 minutes with the Flyers ?

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[Beef Invictus]

I think a new NHL coach would be better for him and all the stagnant/regressing young guys. Otherwise what, are we gonna send all of them down?

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

 

[dingbathero]

At this point he needs to be playing 17-19 min a night here. But, you know how it is here. We have a literal horse as a human on the team.

Ever win a race against a horse?
Ever jump higher than a horse?
Ever eat as much as a horse?

Didn't think so, Patrick can't either. Don't feel bad.

 

[Magua]

Konecny Part II

 

[Curufinwe]

Patrick does not need to play 17+ minutes a night as a 20 year old.

I'd change his wingers, but 3C behind Giroux and Couturier is a good spot for him.

 

[BringBackHakstol]

Give him 15 minutes steady minutes with some actual strong wingers that suit him and just let him work it out

 

[Fight4yourRight]

About his skating... I know this has probably been a pretty common criticism, but it clearly needs some work. At times he looks like he's flying out there. Most games, however, it's not very pretty to look at. Is there anyone in the organization other than the offseason power skating coaches, who focus on that aspect when working with the young guys on off-days/practices? I feel as though Couturier managed to overcome some deficiencies there as well, and it seemed to coincide with his breakthrough.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

This forum is going downhill.

When we aren’t completely ****ing around with this kid, he showed huge flashes consistently.

I wonder what Cuck Fletcher could do to fix this.

 

[Beef Invictus]

This forum is going downhill.

When we aren’t completely ****ing around with this kid, he showed huge flashes consistently.

I wonder what **** Fletcher could do to fix this.

last couple months of last year were super encouraging.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

This forum is going downhill.

When we aren’t completely ****ing around with this kid, he showed huge flashes consistently.

I wonder what **** Fletcher could do to fix this.

He and Oskar look like magic together, it slows down for a nanosecond, and the stunned donkey-****er behind the bench banishes Oskar to the nether reaches and saddles Patrick with a literal horse. So lets demote Patrick to the minors. Hahahaha. The **** are we even doing.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

He and Oskar look like magic together, it slows down for a nanosecond, and the stunned donkey-****er behind the bench banishes Oskar to the nether reaches and saddles Patrick with a literal horse. So lets demote Patrick to the minors. Hahahaha. The **** are we even doing.

We’re literally just the hockey equivalent of pissing in the wind.

 

[VladDrag]

Of all the things I worry about regarding this team, NoPa ain’t one of them.

His usage, sure, but not him as a player. He’s going to be a good Flyer for a long time.

 

[Dumpster Flyers]

He and Oskar look like magic together, it slows down for a nanosecond, and the stunned donkey-****er behind the bench banishes Oskar to the nether reaches and saddles Patrick with a literal horse. So lets demote Patrick to the minors. Hahahaha. The **** are we even doing.

Hakstol being a bad coach doesn’t mean Patrick isn’t trash. His individual play isn’t NHL-caliber.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Hakstol being a bad coach doesn’t mean Patrick isn’t trash. His individual play isn’t NHL-caliber.

Are you saying that he doesn't fit the Norm ?

 

[magnumpi]

The problem is that the moment one of the young players don't perform 100% perfect on a shift the coach sends them to the end of the bench.

Haksol is a terrible coach for young players.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

He hasn’t been good as of late. I’m fine with him being the 3C currently but perhaps bump up Lindblom with him. He’ll probably end up being a victim of where he was drafted over the years if he isn’t already.

I think he can still be a useful player as time goes on even if he isn’t a star/top line caliber player & did show that in the second half last year but he probably won’t live up to the #2 pick.

 

[GKJ]

The problem is that the moment one of the young players don't perform 100% perfect on a shift the coach sends them to the end of the bench.

Haksol is a terrible coach for young players.

He's never really done that with Patrick though, he's never scratched him. Last night was the first time he played less than 13 minutes in a game where he didn't get hurt this season. I'd try putting him with Giroux, personally. 1 point in 15 games that wasn't into an empty net is what should be concerning. This team does go on droughts where they don't generate chances, but they do still score goals, and he isn't and Lindblom isn't.

 

[BobbyClarkeFan16]

He's never really done that with Patrick though, he's never scratched him. Last night was the first time he played less than 13 minutes in a game where he didn't get hurt this season. I'd try putting him with Giroux, personally

Agreed. Giroux - Patrick - Konecny on one line. Lindblom - Couturier - Voracek on another line. It's too bad that JVR is the odd man out, but it's imperative that the Flyers find a way to jump start Patrick and Lindblom. At least, a good coach would find a way........

 

[GKJ]

I'd try letting him play wing. Hextall was adamant that that wasn't an option. Versatility never hurt anybody.

 

[James Dirksin]

He might get Young JVR'd if he does not produce soon.

#notrustingtheprocess

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Scoring pretty much goes to die on any line not the first line on this team & has been like that for a while now.

 

[Magua]

I'd try letting him play wing. Hextall was adamant that that wasn't an option. Versatility never hurt anybody.

I actually wondered myself if they could Draisaitl him now and again; even for shifts. A smart player like him can adapt, even if it's something new. But a large part is who he plays with. Playing next to Couturier or Giroux now and again, or for a short term period, does magic for most players. I'm not sure it matters who plays wing/center in this scenario.

I still think that's more a last resort. It also returns to not having a real 3C, and Giroux at center was for "depth" purposes. He should be playing net front on PP1 for example. Points have a funny way of building confidence. And having pigeon wingers, when he sort of needs to be the pigeon himself along with working quick give-and-go plays, does him zero favors. Like many 20 year old NHL players finding out what they can and can't do.......he just needs some help. Linemate, coaching, usage, and otherwise.

 

[deadhead]

Well, Laughton isn't the answer for his LW.

 

[Tripod]

Scoring pretty much goes to die on any line not the first line on this team & has been like that for a while now.

And that is why having Giroux and Couts on different lines are important. Because at ES, both lines can add offense.

Last year we said the same thing...having G and Couts together obviously works, but it kills our C depth. And in today's NHL. having the C depth is way more important than having winger depth.

but having an idiot head coach always puts you at a disadvantage.