Value of: Patrick Kane

[ColbyChaos]

An article just came out that said toews and kane were pissed that the blackhawks are going the rebuild direction.
I think thats why people think hed be willing to waive it and that hed rather go somewhere with a chance to win rather than stay on rebuilding team. He still can control who hed waive it for.

It was written by the village idiot among hawks writers and the same guy who started stirring the pot about Sharp and Keith’s wife, instantly smearing Kane the moment the false accusation happened, and more that the rest of the hawks board could name off. Laz is a hack and doesn’t have any real connections unlike Powers

 

[Alexander the Gr8]

The Hawks should never trade Kane. He’s the only player that they should hold onto at all costs.

 

[JohnnyJacket13]

Korpisalo+Jenner+Bemstrom+Marchenko+1st for Kane

 

[buffalowing88]

This is one of the most reasonable offers I have seen. Thanks for making a real attempt to satisfy both sides.

My only caveat would be no lottery protection on the 1st.

Thanks! And yeah, I assumed that would be the case by saying it was protected to begin with haha. If Buffalo wants Kane, they need to be willing to deal some actual resources out. Especially if a cap dump is involved. Chicago has a front office that has been readying for this rebuild, they're not going to just say yes to anything.

 

[Pitter Patter]

Kessel wasnt as good but he was 27 and was roughly a point a game prior to leaving the leafs. They had to retain 1.2 of 8mm. Once all the pieces washed out, it was basically for a conditional 1st round pick and Kapanen who was a late 1st. Rebuildings can be fire sales.

Yeah, the Toronto Maple Leafs: the high-water mark for NHL franchises. If only the Blackhawks could be as smart as the Leafs.

 

[Notsince67]

Yeah, the Toronto Maple Leafs: the high-water mark for NHL franchises. If only the Blackhawks could be as smart as the Leafs.

Chicago dumb I guess.

 

[Pitter Patter]

Chicago dumb I guess.

Yeah, well, like, at least we use verbs, man.

 

[Plural]

Trading Kane makes sense in rebuilding perspective. Trading a franchise legend on the other hand, well it's business after all. Kane still has tremendous value. Elite offensive winger with absolutely stunning playoff pedigree. Kane is the kind of guy who might push your playoff team in to a true contender.

 

[Stickpucker]

Kane to Buffalo for Skinner + 2021 1st + Reinhart.

Caps are close. Skinner is younger and gives Chicago a fun player to watch during rebuild while getting younger resources to build around.

Buffalo has a top 6 including Eichel, Hall, Kane, and Staal.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Kane to Buffalo for Skinner + 2021 1st + Reinhart.

Caps are close. Skinner is younger and gives Chicago a fun player to watch during rebuild while getting younger resources to build around.

Buffalo has a top 6 including Eichel, Hall, Kane, and Staal.

No thank you sir

 

[Hockeyholic]

Kane to Buffalo for Skinner + 2021 1st + Reinhart.

Caps are close. Skinner is younger and gives Chicago a fun player to watch during rebuild while getting younger resources to build around.

Buffalo has a top 6 including Eichel, Hall, Kane, and Staal.

This is a truly miserable offer for Chicago.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Kessel wasnt as good but he was 27 and was roughly a point a game prior to leaving the leafs. They had to retain 1.2 of 8mm. Once all the pieces washed out, it was basically for a conditional 1st round pick and Kapanen who was a late 1st. Rebuildings can be fire sales.

Kessel was struggling to even hit 60pts and was a -16 in 2015. Kane had 84 in 70 (1.20PPG) Not really comparable at all you are comparing a player above PPG to a .70 PPG player and hoping no one would actually check you on that.

2nd Point Kessel had only 34 even strength points (25 PP points that year) in 82GP the season he was traded, compare that to Kane's even strength production 61pts (25G+36A) and 23pp pts(8PPG and 15PPA) in 70GP

They arent even close to the same production.

You are also are ignoring Kessel screwed his team by manipulating his NTC by only listing teams that had no cap space or teams that wouldnt trade for him. It essentially made his 10 team NTC into a full NMC, he did the same thing to Pit forcing by listing AZ and then a bunch of teams who wouldnt want him/ had no cap space.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Not happening.

Whrn has a 30+ player gotten a top 10 pick who hasn’t started his career yet

NOBODY will trade you a top 10 pick prospect.

At this point...

This season any trade needs to be cap neutral unless he goes to a rebuilding team. Nobody has the cap space.

In 21 with 2 yrs left the best return he gets is a 1-2+ b prospect+ salary back or retention.

Karlsson and Duchene that was easy. Sorry but Middlingstats, Risto, and Skinner arent getting it done you clown

 

[St Louis515]

So St Louis needs a right winger with Tarasenko and Steen on LTIR, would have cap space with that and players going back. No Robert Thomas, but what else would it take from St Louis. Our window to make another cup run it is open, and Kane could be the missing piece.He is one of those guys, hate him on the other team, but would love to have him on our side.
Would Chicago even consider dealing him to St Louis ?

 

[Crow]

So St Louis needs a right winger with Tarasenko and Steen on LTIR, would have cap space with that and players going back. No Robert Thomas, but what else would it take from St Louis. Our window to make another cup run it is open, and Kane could be the missing piece.He is one of those guys, hate him on the other team, but would love to have him on our side.
Would Chicago even consider dealing him to St Louis ?

Honestly if the Robert Thomas’s of the world are off the table he isn’t going anywhere. Only proven young stars should be off the table for a top ten player in the league.

 

[St Louis515]

Honestly if the Robert Thomas’s of the world are off the table he isn’t going anywhere. Only proven young stars should be off the table for a top ten player in the league.

ok, if Thomas is part of the package, what is going to take ?

 

[TopTenPlayz]

Can't imagine Kane ever getting traded unless he asks for it

 

[Sinbad]

Can't imagine Kane ever getting traded unless he asks for it

Well he does have a NMC so that’s a pretty bold position to take, way to go out on a limb!

 

[TopTenPlayz]

Well he does have a NMC so that’s a pretty bold position to take, way to go out on a limb!

Regardless, Kane is a guy who's getting special treatment a la Crosby, Malkin, Ovechkin, Yzerman, Sakic, etc. You don't trade these guys to help with a rebuild. Their values go beyond hockey.

 

[Jamie Winston]

ya you do. Chicago wants to rebuild. not many teams can absorb Kane's contract. Kane controls where and if he is going. He can select one team and force a trade to that team. Chicago has no leverage. See Arizona with OEL.

Lol what Chicago has all the leverage. Especially if they retain. Kane is among the best of his generation and still pointing up 100 point seasons in recent years. You better believe Teams will line up to pay prime assets. Cozens would just be the minimum ask.

 

[Jamie Winston]

Some of these offers are just God awful... if the deal doesn’t contain an A level Elite prospect, a 1st round pick, two more B level prospects, and a fairly decent roster player with a cap to even the deal then there is no deal to be had. Chicago can retain to make the deal more enticing. Also young goalie prospects may be of interest.

 

[Jamie Winston]

Hmm let's balance that just a smidge

Chi:

Elias Pettersson

Van:

Kane at 50%
Dach
Strome

There we go

Please lol this is ridiculous. Kane at 50% retained is easily as valuable as pettersson

 

[Bizzare]

Please lol this is ridiculous. Kane at 50% retained is easily as valuable as pettersson

While I think the offer is trash, Kane @50% retained is not worth Pettersson.

 

[Jamie Winston]

Kane is a great player but he aint that.

Kane is generally considered to be right with Crosby, Ovi, Geno. He has very similar achievements. And seemingly had a better cup run then Crosby and geno. Also Kane has outscored them in recent years. I personally and probably also a lot of people would take Kane over geno. Kane is easily a first ballot hall of famer don’t see how it’s a hard thing to recognize him at that tier.

 

[Jamie Winston]

While I think the offer is trash, Kane @50% retained is not worth Pettersson.

I disagree. While it might be hard for a team to trade a younger player for an older one. Having a 100 point future first ballot hall of fame player at 5 mil for Three years opens your cup window wide open.