Works now!
Alright, here's the part of the site which prompted the wiki in the first place:
List of trades!
Some GMs (I'm looking at you, MVW) made this an exhausting task to be sure. Let me know if I got the conditions right on those conditional picks.
If a prospect doesn't play 40 games in the NHL, he would enter into the prospect draft.
Also, if someone doesn't use a keeper on a prospect, they would enter into the prospect draft (ex: Elias Lindholm, Sean Monahan, or Rasmus Risto)
Ladies and gentleman, I present to you, the new rule:
Many people have expressed through PM and on this thread that they are dissatisfied of so many prospects being taken in the regular draft. Hopefully this rule helps that! It should be the medium of the two groups.
As everyone knows, if an NHL team doesn't sign their prospect(s) by [insert year here], they would re-enter the draft. Well, we are going to try to implement this into our fantasy league.
If a prospect doesn't play 40 games in the NHL, he would enter into the prospect draft.
Also, if someone doesn't use a keeper on a prospect, they would enter into the prospect draft (ex: Elias Lindholm, Sean Monahan, or Rasmus Risto)
This only applies to prospects in the current draft class (ie: 2013 for this year; 2014 for next year).
As always, we will always re-arrange this rule if this does not not satisfy anyone in the league.
I think there's a lot of random ideas being thrown around, and while I don't pretend to be an expert on the subject, I think we need to establish a goal regarding prospects and therefore establish ideas to achieve it.
Are we trying to limit which players get selected as prospects to recent drafts that have already taken place? Are we trying to allow users to keep prospects long enough to get a full productive season from them? What's productive? And are we trying to keep this as logistically easy to manage as possible?
Now I ask why the rules are made and how that meets the goals?
Alright, here's the part of the site which prompted the wiki in the first place:
List of trades!
Some GMs (I'm looking at you, MVW) made this an exhausting task to be sure. Let me know if I got the conditions right on those conditional picks.
I think there's a lot of random ideas being thrown around, and while I don't pretend to be an expert on the subject, I think we need to establish a goal regarding prospects and therefore establish ideas to achieve it.
Are we trying to limit which players get selected as prospects to recent drafts that have already taken place? Are we trying to limit it to this years draft? Are we trying to allow users to keep prospects long enough to get a full productive season from them? What's productive? And are we trying to keep this as logistically easy to manage as possible?
Now I ask why the rules are made and how that meets the goals?
I think as a whole, people are miffed because they feel they were mislead into the value or prospect picks or the prospect draft.
On a whole we could eliminate the whole prospect rights thing and keep it simple.
9 keepers, 10 if you win. Maybe having a prospects draft and the whole rights thing (while interesting and simulates more real life) is just making things too complicated.
I disagree. Very strongly. I believe that the prospect draft is what makes the keeper league worthwhile. With the 100 game limit, I feel like prospects are really powerful. If you pick right, you can wait for the guy to become a valuable, contributing player, and then he just walks right into your lineup. That sort of impact is not limited to the top 5 draft choices.
It depends if we're going for a fantasy league that each year someone different has a change to win or a long term building league where the development of prospects can lead to dynasties.
Personally, I don't think that anything's going to get done unless we can come up with a motivational mission statement.
I'll get started on writing the organizational policies and programs. Hours of work, privacy agreements, the security program, all that. We need more stuff to get us confused!
I'd say we're going for the most realistic league possible. If you're bad, the system helps you get good. If you're good, you can create a dynasty, but you have to make good moves to do so.
Frankly, I think that without the prospects, cellar-dwellers would be in a pretty bad position. Sure, they get first choice in the main draft, but what are the odds that the player you get is that much better than your 9 keepers? It's hard to turn your franchise around if you aren't able to keep prospects.
To me, the system as it is creates a good balance- you can turn your team around through a rebuild (unlike a normal keeper league as you suggest), but you can't simply turn it around overnight (like in a non-keeper league).
Ok so the solution I maintain is that we hold the prospect draft BEFORE the main draft. That way it gives more value to prospect picks AND people can protect the best prospects from each year. (Eckblad, MacKinnon, McDavid etc...)
Just remember that means whomever drafts McDavid essentially has a free keeper pick for 2 seasons (100 games).
So you keep 9 non-prospects plus X amount of prospects. That definitely makes the game more simulation like and long term.