Confirmed with Link: Panthers acquire Mike Hoffman & 2018 7th from SJ, for 2019 2nd & 2018 4th + 5th round picks

[Rat Trick]

The most weird thing is going to be another #68 in Panthers jersey?

 

[floridada]

include bjugstad in a deal for pacioretty and it works this year, we'd be able to resign him wit mcginn coming off the books next season. and our top-6 would be absolutely insane (along with our pp).

They're insanely desperate for centers, too.

 

[Acadmus]

If it's Monika Caryk that's actually behind this it shouldn't be too difficult to prove. Amateurs think they can get away with this stuff by using a VPN service but actually from what I've read they're pretty easy to forensically track by those in the know. If the Karlsson's hired their own cyber PI and he/she was able to identify Caryk as the sender, then that information is already in the hands of Ottawa Police Cyber Unit for verification. The Crown Prosecutor is not going to just walk away from this and sweep it under the rug because there are sports celebrities and their Wags involved. This case is too high profile at this point and IMO will be resolved one way or another in the favor of Caryk or the Karlsson's. Charges may never be brought if the Crown Prosecutor doesn't have enough evidence for a conviction. If there is enough evidence to proceed to trial then the Crown Prosecutor also has the option of a plea bargain to a lesser charge if the defendant accepts. These charges are public record and normally don't remain sealed. The other option for both parties is in civil court and at that point one or both parties could agree to settle out of court or drop the lawsuit.

This still doesn't answer the question of what her motive was to go to all the trouble. Nobody works this hard to be nasty for no reason outside of movies and comic books.

 

[PBPantherfan]

This still doesn't answer the question of what her motive was to go to all the trouble. Nobody works this hard to be nasty for no reason outside of movies and comic books.

Who knows maybe it was a “mean girls” situation where she butted heads with Karlsson’s wife then Karlsson’s wife turned the rest of the wives on her. So Caryk goes nuts and goes all cyber stalker. Because if all the wives hated Caryk and bitched about it to their husbands that’s going to rub off on Hoffman even if he didn’t do anything. Or they both could be just batshit crazy we won’t know until something comes out from the investigation.

 

[Beezeral]

A couple of observations. The acquisition of Hoffman eliminates any need for Patches, who we cannot afford to resign in any event. Having filled our pressing need for a scorer, having signed our young core, having stocked young talent etc., our rebuild is now over. We now need to draft well, restock the prospect pool on D and take advantage of trade opportunities.

The Panthers have too many left wingers as it is. They aren’t adding Patches unless the Habs are giving him away.

 

[batting1k]

Just a fair warning that just because some Joe says we're in on Pacioretty means absolutely nothing. It could be some Montreal source telling that Murphy guy that we're interested to drive up the price for the teams that are actually in, or it could be an FLA source faking to Murphy that we're interested to drive up the price for the other teams and make them lose more in a trade. Or, it could be Murphy making up something that's entirely possible but not legit just to get RTs and likes.

Take these types of tweets with a grain of salt.

 

[iam76]

miss u bat

 

[Little Bobby Boo]

miss u bat

RT

 

[TheImpatientPanther]

Just a fair warning that just because some Joe says we're in on Pacioretty means absolutely nothing. It could be some Montreal source telling that Murphy guy that we're interested to drive up the price for the teams that are actually in, or it could be an FLA source faking to Murphy that we're interested to drive up the price for the other teams and make them lose more in a trade. Or, it could be Murphy making up something that's entirely possible but not legit just to get RTs and likes.

Take these types of tweets with a grain of salt.

Stop by more often...

 

[RainingRats]

Much happier with Hoffman and the price we paid than signing Kovy to what he got. Will be interesting to see how each of them do over the next three years.

 

[KW]

Much happier with Hoffman and the price we paid than signing Kovy to what he got. Will be interesting to see how each of them do over the next three years.

Agreed.

 

[5 Hole]

Or they both could be just bat**** crazy

This is most likely the case.

 

[Ratsreign]

The most weird thing is going to be another #68 in Panthers jersey?

Is emulating Jagr while a kid the reason Hoffman originally wanted to wear #68, or is there another reason? If there even is a special reason for it beyond 8, 18 or 28 weren't available on a team somewhere along his way up.

 

[Boud]

Panthers fans are gonna love Hoffman. For those who haven't seen him much he's also a pretty good passer on top of his elite shot. He can rush the puck up the ice and is very skilled and elusive. He will easily score 30 playing with a Barkov or Trochek.

When the games get tougher and more physical you will see Hoffman shy away a bit at times. He doesn't like to get hit. On the defensive side he's been hot and cold. Sometimes playing on a line with Pageau and Pyatt relied on to shutdown the oppositions top line and they were quite good. On the other hand he sometimes makes very lazy or careful plays for example will let go of the puck when about to get hit, or will make a risky pass, be very slow on the line change, not cover his man.

Panthers have good enough players to cover for his flaws and he will be great.

 

[BeezKnees]

Not sure if this was mentioned already, but just noticed that Hoffman played on the Sea Dogs with Huberdeau and Gallant in Huby's first Jr. year.

 

[I am not exposed]

Not sure if this was mentioned already, but just noticed that Hoffman played on the Sea Dogs with Huberdeau and Gallant in Huby's first Jr. year.

Bring back Gallant!

 

[GrumpyKelly]

Bring back Gallant!

And Gudbranski!

 

[Jakeybonz]

Panthers fans are gonna love Hoffman. For those who haven't seen him much he's also a pretty good passer on top of his elite shot. He can rush the puck up the ice and is very skilled and elusive. He will easily score 30 playing with a Barkov or Trochek.

When the games get tougher and more physical you will see Hoffman shy away a bit at times. He doesn't like to get hit. On the defensive side he's been hot and cold. Sometimes playing on a line with Pageau and Pyatt relied on to shutdown the oppositions top line and they were quite good. On the other hand he sometimes makes very lazy or careful plays for example will let go of the puck when about to get hit, or will make a risky pass, be very slow on the line change, not cover his man.

Panthers have good enough players to cover for his flaws and he will be great.

yea i have him comfortably passing the 30 goal mark for the first time in his career this year. im thinking ~33 goals.

 

[I am not exposed]

Yep, still delighted with this trade.

 

[Ghoste]

The most weird thing is going to be another #68 in Panthers jersey?

-ghoste

 

[Chaos2k7]

-ghoste

Gonna take a lot of work to change the public perception of his person, but I am glad to see he is taking time out, even if all it does is make one sick kid happy.

 

[Brokin]

Monika Caryk takes action as a prequel to possible civil suite against the Karlsson's by filing a Norwich Order. Melinda Karlsson will be forced to turn over all evidence she has in a court order.

A Norwich Order "is a form of equitable order that permits discovery of third parties even in the absence of a pending lawsuit. Effectively, this order can turn an otherwise innocent bystander into the key actor who may determine whether a cause of action will be litigated or, indeed, whether a cause of action even exists," according to Legal Business. In this instance, Caryk is applying it to try to clear her name of any wrongdoing.

Trade is looking more and more like a steal for the Cats.

Monika Caryk files for information in court dispute with Melinda Karlsson

 

[BeezKnees]

Basically you’re saying why would she file that and put additional attention on herself, unless she’s actually innocent? I hope that’s the case, but she could be bluffing or not understand that there is actually evidence against her. If the charges are true, she’s shown she doesnt have the best decision making skills. Hopefully you’re right though and she has a good legal team making these decisions.

 

[ucanthanzalthetruth]

Copying my post from the mainboard-All a Norwich Order does is request evidence. She wants it produced to her and her lawyer, ESPN makes it seem like they want it public. This is a standard step before she decides how she wants her legal team to build a defense. However they're rarely granted so I'd be surprised if she gets one.

This is not a sign that she's innocent or guilty, just standard procedure.

 

[Brokin]

Melinda filed the Peace Bond on May 4th but never bothered to have it delivered to Caryk and then someone in the press got a hold of it and leaked the story. That person in the press refused to reveal their source. Let's see, who has the most to gain by leaking this and tarnishing someone's reputation without ever having to show proof that Caryk actually sent all these tweets? Yeah Melinda Karlsson. The two women have obviously shared a dislike for each other long before any of these mean spirited tweets came out and now it's boiled over.

The court could decide not to grant the Norwich Order based on the fact that Melinda was under tremendous stress after the loss of her baby. Based on what's happened in the last 17 years or so a few things must exist before Caryk will be granted her wish:

• Whether the claimant has provided sufficient evidence to raise a valid claim;
  
• Whether the claimant has shown that the third party was somehow involved in the wrong;
  
• Whether that third party is the only practicable source of information;
  
• Whether that third party could be indemnified should any harm come of the order, if granted; and
  
• Whether the interests of justice favor the disclosure.

Norwich Orders are increasingly being used where a claimant is defamed online by an anonymous author. In such cases, the administrators of the websites or Internet Service Providers are the innocent third parties who have the information the claimant seeks and could not otherwise obtain – the identity of the wrongdoer.

In these situations, courts must strike an appropriate balance between freedom of expression and privacy interests of anonymous defamers on the one hand and the reputational interests of the claimants on the other.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/documents.lexology.com/c1f37d43-2c1f-402f-a87d-92afec35740d.pdf

The above pre-requisites make more sense for Melinda than Caryk but you could still use them as reverse guidelines to force the Karlsson's to show their hand. The question is "why did Melinda file the Peace Bond in the first place if she had no intention of following up to make sure it was delivered?" She could have just acknowledged it and said it was a mistake, but she didn't. After the story was published I think she relished watching Caryk twist in the wind. So now it's up to a judge to either let Caryk's reputation continue to suffer or he or she can bring an end to this story by granting the Norwich Order and giving Melinda the option to put up or shut up. IMO, it should be granted and I would bet the whole thing would be settled out of court rather than going thru a civil trial that the media would turn into a circus.