Out of town thread VI

[Rapala]

Tom Wilson .....gets blindsided...

Keep your head up you POS.

 

[Andrei79]

With Vegas being exempted from the expansion draft, wont this make it unfair for Seattle ?

I mean, Vegas basically had free reign to make deals with teams that had too many players to protect. Whereas if Vegas has an exemption, you suddenly have an additional team competing for those players without any roster restrictions.

 

[Agalloch]

With Vegas being exempted from the expansion draft, wont this make it unfair for Seattle ?

I mean, Vegas basically had free reign to make deals with teams that had too many players to protect. Whereas if Vegas has an exemption, you suddenly have an additional team competing for those players without any roster restrictions.

Agree. I hope they make some kind of rule that you can't use Las Vegas to 'protect' players.

 

[DAChampion]

With Vegas being exempted from the expansion draft, wont this make it unfair for Seattle ?

I mean, Vegas basically had free reign to make deals with teams that had too many players to protect. Whereas if Vegas has an exemption, you suddenly have an additional team competing for those players without any roster restrictions.

IMO, nope, because there are several years in between the two expansions.

A lot of players were exempt because they were in their first two years of pros. All of those players will now need to be either exposed, or protected, which means exposing somebody else.

 

[Andrei79]

IMO, nope, because there are several years in between the two expansions.

A lot of players were exempt because they were in their first two years of pros. All of those players will now need to be either exposed, or protected, which means exposing somebody else.

Hmmm... Thats not really what I meant.

Seattle will have another team with no roster restrictions competing for players that teams wont be able to protect.

 

[loudi94]

Agree. I hope they make some kind of rule that you can't use Las Vegas to 'protect' players.

I don't think teams are going to do what they did last time. They will just accept that they're going to lose a player and move on. Very few of the "deals" that were made worked out for anyone but Vegas.

 

[DAChampion]

Hmmm... Thats not really what I meant.

Seattle will have another team with no roster restrictions competing for players that teams wont be able to protect.

Well, they do have roster restrictions. They can only have so many contracts at a given time, and only so much cap. Further, if they collude, the NHL might come down on them.

 

[Habby4Life]

Keep your head up you POS.

What goes around comes around. I don't want to see anyone get hurt but maybe Wilson will learn something from this.

 

[Rapala]

What goes around comes around. I don't want to see anyone get hurt but maybe he will learn something from this.

Absolutely someone posted they like Wilson and they hoped he isn't hurt. I hoped he isn't hurt so someone else can can take a run at him.

 

[Habby4Life]

Absolutely someone posted they like Wilson and they hoped he isn't hurt. I hoped he isn't hurt so someone else can can take a run at him.

Yeah, I agree with your statement. Reaves had him in his sights all not long.

It looked like he might have a concussion. We shall see.

Perhaps, it might be the only way he begins to appreciate how dangerous his hits are. Its ok to play with an edge but he plays cheap

 

[Andrei79]

Well, they do have roster restrictions. They can only have so many contracts at a given time, and only so much cap. Further, if they collude, the NHL might come down on them.

True but they would be an additional team that could offer assets for players teams would lose anyways. They basically had a monopoly in that sense for their expansion draft since most teams but a few couldnt afford to take on more protected slots. Seattle wont have as much of an advantage because of that rule, at least if Vegas plays their cards right.

 

[DAChampion]

True but they would be an additional team that could offer assets for players teams would lose anyways. They basically had a monopoly in that sense for their expansion draft since most teams but a few couldnt afford to take on more protected slots. Seattle wont have as much of an advantage because of that rule, at least if Vegas plays their cards right.

OK I see what you mean. Seattle won't have the option of running a hoarding game in three years time.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Seattle should have a leg up in that they won't have an unsustainable run in year one and will actually tank and get great young players to build around.

 

[Sorinth]

Well, they do have roster restrictions. They can only have so many contracts at a given time, and only so much cap. Further, if they collude, the NHL might come down on them.

I don't think it's going to be a big deal, but Seattle loses some bargaining power because of Vegas's exemption. Lots of teams looked at moving their #4 D instead of exposing them, however the market was limited because not many teams could take that guy and still protect him. This gave Vegas the opportunity to low ball certain teams, or force concessions to not pick a certain player. With Vegas's exemption it means you can trade your #4 D to Vegas and in theory get a better return because more teams are able to take that player without exposing him. So Seattle has a slightly weaker hand.

Vegas doesn't need to collude, they could trade for a teams #4 D when prices are low right before the draft, and then turn around and deal him to a different team after the draft and presumably get a better return.

 

[DAChampion]

If the Habs sign Karlsson, then Seattle will have their pick of Mete or Juulsen ;-)

 

[OldCraig71]

Tom Wilson .....gets blindsided...

In the spirit of the season, Tom Wison just learned that it is more blessed to give than to recieve.

 

[Adam Michaels]

 

[JuJu Mobb]

A trade that will go down in the annals.

 

[Per Sjoblom]

Dahlin played 29 minutes yesterday.

 

[Tyson]

Who would have thought that LA, Chicago and St. Louis would be this bad?

 

[thewall]

Who would have thought that LA, Chicago and St. Louis would be this bad?

Is the Blues 1st round pick lottery protected? If not then the Sabres might land Hughes .......

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Is the Blues 1st round pick lottery protected? If not then the Sabres might land Hughes .......

Yes, it's protected for this year, but not next. I can see that team having a quick turn around. Draft Kaako, Cozens or Dach move Schenn back to wing if needed. Don't resign JayBo. Get a real goalie. 2020 1st shouldn't be close to a lottery pick if they do this off-season right.

 

[PsychoticHab]

Is the Blues 1st round pick lottery protected? If not then the Sabres might land Hughes .......

If it's Top 10 they can keep it and send their 2020 1st Round Pick instead.

 

[japhi]

Agreed. I was going to write the same...and ya, we can add Ziggy Palfy, Alfredsson, Iginla, Peter Bondra, Blake, Nolan, Ricci, Amonte, LeClair, Weight, Kovalev, Lafontaine, Oates, Roenick, Gimour, Theo Fleury, Brett Hull, Ciccarelli, Housley...
Hot dang the list goes on and on.

I seriously miss 90s hockey. I don't think there ever was as much talent as in that time. The funny part is, we couldn't really watch most of the teams and guys play because there was no center ice package, or anything of the sorts.
So watching sports center was an absolute must every single morning. After that, take the sports section on the way to school, I would read every little stats available to me. Go over each game scoreboard they would write in the papers.
Man, simpler times. But it sure feels there was a lot more high end guys back then.

1991 was peak hockey. Goalies weren’t bad either, Roy, Brodeur, Hasek. 3 top 10 guys all at prime

 

[Toene]

Expansion draft in 2021 means we lose a D even having traded Petry.

Weber, Mete, Juulsen will be eligible. If we do aquire someone else on the left side to solidy the squad in the near future, we'll have to choose between those four as I dont think we'll protect only 4 forwards with the 8 skaters - 1G formula that some team used for the LV expansion.

Depends on what rules are put in place. If they're similar to Vegas...