Friedman: Ottawa's 7th overall pick is available for trade

[BondraTime]

How about Jeff Petry?

Has absolutely zero value to the Sens, negative value actually as they don't want to be paying 8 million in signing bonuses and 20 million overall for an older player that isn't a fit with the core of the team for their window.

They will trade the pick as a part of a package for a 20-27 year old player who will be signed to term. They aren't going to be trading the pick for a package.

 

[BondraTime]

Are you trolling me or did you not read my first post? Lol

"Montreal offers Petry a first this year (CGY) and their 2nd (33rd)"

Yes, are you just not following?

 

[ShameOnYouZidlicky]

Something around #7 for Scheifele?

 

[Adele Dazeem]

How about

trade Fiala(extended) + Dumba

for

trade 7th overall + Brown + Zaitsev + Sokolov/Jarventie + 2nd

 

[Fire Sweeney]

BOS:
7th OVR
Shane Pinto

OTT:
Brad Marchand
Matt Grzelcyk

 

[MNRube]

BOS:
7th OVR
Shane Pinto

OTT:
Brad Marchand
Matt Grzelcyk

Rate trade that is awful for both teams. Even if the value is about right

 

[Sting]

BOS:
7th OVR
Shane Pinto

OTT:
Brad Marchand
Matt Grzelcyk

In what world does Ottawa trade for a 34 year old, even if it is Marchand?

 

[Akrapovince]

How about

trade Fiala(extended) + Dumba

for

trade 7th overall + Brown + Zaitsev + Sokolov/Jarventie + 2nd

I’ll try to break it down, a full year of Brown is probably worth a first and a bit. So let’s say Brown and Zaitsev are a wash.

7th + Sokolov + 2nd is that enough for Dumba and Fiala?

I think they would get more by selling separately but I’m in.

 

[Byron Bitz]

I would trade the 7th Overall, Brown and Ridly Grieg for Fiala then sign Giroux and Klingberg and Buyout Matt Murray.

Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson
Fiala-Stutzle-Giroux
Formenton-Pinto-Joseph

Chabot-Klingberg
Sanderson-Zub
Brannstrom-Hamonic

Forsberg
Sogaard

That is a playoff team.

 

[99ovr]

Something around #7 for Scheifele?

Has 2 years left so no

 

[Akrapovince]

I would trade the 7th Overall, Brown and Ridly Grieg for Fiala then sign Giroux and Klingberg and Buyout Matt Murray.

Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson
Fiala-Stutzle-Giroux
Formenton-Pinto-Joseph

Chabot-Klingberg
Sanderson-Zub
Brannstrom-Hamonic

Forsberg
Sogaard

That is a playoff team.

So just to let you know, that return for Fiala is at worse equal to the return for Eichel. Waaaay too much.

 

[edguy]

I would trade the 7th Overall, Brown and Ridly Grieg for Fiala then sign Giroux and Klingberg and Buyout Matt Murray.

Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson
Fiala-Stutzle-Giroux
Formenton-Pinto-Joseph

Chabot-Klingberg
Sanderson-Zub
Brannstrom-Hamonic

Forsberg
Sogaard

That is a playoff team.

Waay too much for Fiala, and waay too much money coming in for a budget team.

 

[Satan]

Dallas: 7 OA

Ottawa: 18 OA, Denis Guryanov, Anton Khudobin,

Sens need a winger that can score. Guryanov has proven he can do it and is a terrific skater. I don't want to trade him because I think he can find success under a new coach but upgrading in a weak draft and getting Khudobin off the books next year would make it worthwhile.

 

[Cogburn]

I'm not going to belabor the earlier offers made, but a top six winger and a top four RHD? We can oblige from Vancouver. We need futures and cap space. Garland or Boeser and Myers (retention definitely on the table for Myers) for the 7th overall and what ever bits need to be worked out for cap and roster space.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

I’ll try to break it down, a full year of Brown is probably worth a first and a bit. So let’s say Brown and Zaitsev are a wash.

7th + Sokolov + 2nd is that enough for Dumba and Fiala?

I think they would get more by selling separately but I’m in.

Dumba is also not available apparently

 

[Brodeur]

Dallas: 7 OA

Ottawa: 18 OA, Denis Guryanov, Anton Khudobin,

Sens need a winger that can score. Guryanov has proven he can do it and is a terrific skater. I don't want to trade him because I think he can find success under a new coach but upgrading in a weak draft and getting Khudobin off the books next year would make it worthwhile.

Khudobin's probably got negative value at this point. Ottawa already has Forsberg/Murray signed and Gustavsson on a cheap one way deal. Ottawa doesn't spend like other teams and Khudobin is due 3.75 million in actual dollars. There's a reason he cleared waivers.

Gurianov has scored 20 goals once. Doesn't seem like the type of guy they'll be targeting.

 

[BondraTime]

Again, the Sens will not be trading the pick for a package. They will be packaging the pick to get an upgrade at a top 6/top 4 position.

 

[Daximus]

Something around #7 for Scheifele?

This is my thoughts as well. If Scheif has to go then the 7th overall pick is a nice baseline. Scheif is an easy drop in, on that top 6 and brings scoring, physicality and speed. His defence has been lacklustre these past few seasons but he turns it on in the playoffs. Maybe being moved will be the wakeup call he needs in order to play like he is capable of. It's not like he came in as a defensive liability, this is something he has recently developed. Change of scenery might do him good.

 

[jfhabs]

I don't know that I agree. The top end doesn't appear to have the star potential of most other drafts, but I think that there is a fair amount of depth in the first two rounds. I agree with the OP that the gap between the #7 and #18 is far smaller than in other years.

Is it because 7th-10th is not so good or because 10th-18th is very good? I tend to think it's the latter.
Looks like a pretty deep draft, specially on defense imo

 

[Djp]

BOS:
7th OVR
Shane Pinto

OTT:
Brad Marchand
Matt Grzelcyk

when has a team traded a top 10 pick for an over 30 player?

 

[Bobby9]

Bo Horvat

7th

 

[SpezDispenser]

An extended Fiala is the kind of player Ottawa should be targeting. Certainly not packages and not old players.

 

[Golden_Jet]

According to Friedman, Ottawa's 7th oa pick is available, he didnt mention what Ottawa is looking for whether its a foundational player that will surround the core and help them compete now or if Ottawa wants to trade down and get more assets.


7th OA is not really a high value spot imo to trade up for so a trade will more than likely be 7th OA for a ready made, producing player.

I have a tier/grouping of players 5th to 18th range and im sure many teams draft boards will also indicate that its not really worth trading up to the 7th spot if you have a pick in the top the 20.

What would be an offer your team would make for the 7th OA?

You don’t have to listen to Friedman speculate, Dorian has said its available a few times,

 

[jfhabs]

An extended Fiala is the kind of player Ottawa should be targeting. Certainly not packages and not old players.

What would it cost? Will cost more then the 7th alone if he's extended. 25yo coming off 85pts, he'd become Ottawa's best forward instantly.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

What would it cost? Will cost more then the 7th alone if he's extended. 25yo coming off 85pts, he'd become Ottawa's best forward instantly.

Hopefully more than I'm expecting Guerin to get. Some sort of baseline off of what an offersheet would be.

1st + 2nd + prospect

The placement of the 1st adjusts the 2nd + prospect up or down. In Ottawa's case, with it being 7th overall, I could probably be relatively content with:

Ottawa 1st + TB 2nd + decent prospect (likely not Greig or Pinto, but someone in the next tier down).