Friedman: Ottawa's 7th overall pick is available for trade

[BondraTime]

You keep saying 19 but Peterka is 20 and only 4 months younger than Robertson lol. You need to compare this season. He has 16 goals and 12 assists in 28 games (28gp 16g 12a 28p).

I know Peterka is a better prospect, but I'm using your flawed logic of ppg. Jack Quinn is the real special talent that buffalo has coming up

It's extremely simple to do.

Peterka is in his 19 year old season (He was eligible for the World Juniors)

Robertson is in his 20 year old season (He was not eligible for the World Juniors)

Quinn absolutely is, a top 10 pick that looks to be even better than when he was drafted. Peterka the exact same, looks much better than the 23rd overall ranking he had going into the 2020 draft

Peterka is not remotely close to being worth a top 10 pick.

He absolutely is, he was ranked 23rd in his own draft, and has since done nothing but get better and better.

 

[AuraSphere]

It's extremely simple to do.

Peterka is in his 19 year old season (He was eligible for the World Juniors)

Robertson is in his 20 year old season (He was not eligible for the World Juniors)

Quinn absolutely is, a top 10 pick that looks to be even better than when he was drafted


He absolutely is, he was ranked 23rd in his own draft, and has since done nothing but get better and better.

You can try to undermine Robertson all you want. Fact is, a couple days born later and he'd be in the same draft as Peterka. It's 4 months for crying out loud. His biggest issue right now is injuries. Again - I do think Peterka is the better prospect, but your argument is silly

 

[WingsMJN2965]

He absolutely is, he was ranked 23rd in his own draft, and has since done nothing but get better and better.

I. Don't. Care.

Nobody's giving you a top 10 pick for Peterka because he put up a PPG in the AHL, just like nobody's giving us a top 10 pick for Berggren because he put up a PPG in the AHL.

 

[BondraTime]

You can try to undermine Robertson all you want. Fact is, a couple days born later and he'd be in the same draft as Peterka. It's 4 months for crying out loud. His biggest issue right now is injuries. Again - I do think Peterka is the better prospect, but your argument is silly

Again, what draft he was in makes absolutely zero difference in determining what aged season a player is in....

Robertson was born in 01', he was in his 20 year old season

Peterka was born in 02', he was in his 19 year old season

I'm not undermining Robertson at all, I'm stating the very easy to research fact that Robertson isn't in his 19 year old season (seeing he played 0 games this season at age 19....)

I. Don't. Care.

Nobody's giving you a top 10 pick for Peterka because he put up a PPG in the AHL, just like nobody's giving us a top 10 pick for Berggren because he put up a PPG in the AHL.

So why are you responding?

I'm not a fan of Buffalo, at all...I'm an unbiased fan who understands how a player would be valued throughout the league after 2 years of development.

And yes, Breggren putting up a worse season 2 years older than Peterka is a great counter argument

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Again, what draft he was in makes absolutely zero difference in determining what aged season a player is in....

Robertson was born in 01', he was in his 20 year old season

Peterka was born in 02', he was in his 19 year old season

I'm not undermining Robertson at all, I'm stating the very easy to research fact that Robertson isn't in his 19 year old season (seeing he played 0 games this season at age 19....)


So why are you responding?

I'm not a fan of Buffalo, at all...I'm an unbiased fan who understands how a player would be valued throughout the league after 2 years of development.

And yes, Breggren putting up a worse season 2 years older than Peterka is a great counter argument

"I'm not a Buffalo fan so my opinion is unbiased and must be true", is an even better argument.

He's not worth a Top 10 pick. If you're so confident of it though, go make a poll and see how well it goes over.

 

[BondraTime]

"I'm not a Buffalo fan so my opinion is unbiased and must be true", is an even better argument.

He's not worth a Top 10 pick. If you're so confident of it though, go make a poll and see how well it goes over.

I have zero desire to try that, as though a poll on HF means anything, whatsoever.

From a Sens fan perspective, I'd rather Peterka than a vast majority of the players slated to go around our pick, would be very open to swapping them out if it weren't being used to bring in an impact NHLer.

Obviously not the only Sens fan thinking the same

 

[WingsMJN2965]

I have zero desire to try that, as though a poll on HF means anything, whatsoever.

From a Sens fan perspective, I'd rather Peterka than a vast majority of the players slated to go around our pick, would be very open to swapping them out if it weren't being used to bring in an impact NHLer.

Obviously not the only Sens fan thinking the same

“I have zero desire to try that, because it’d be a landslide.”

Fixed.

 

[BondraTime]

“I have zero desire to try that, because it’d be a landslide.”

Fixed.

Informative as ever!

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Informative as ever!

Tracks better than, “This PPG AHLer is worth a top 10 pick.”

 

[BondraTime]

Tracks better than, “This PPG AHLer is worth a top 10 pick.”

Who could imagine, a guy ranked 23rd in an extremely strong draft who has done nothing but surpass expectations and get better and better could be valued higher than he was 2 years ago!

Insane logic to follow, I understand

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Who could imagine, a guy ranked 23rd in an extremely strong draft who has done nothing but surpass expectations and get better and better could be valued higher than he was 2 years ago!

Insane logic to follow, I understand

Explains your logic that Berggren is a different case.

… Wait.

 

[BondraTime]

Explains your logic that Berggren is a different case.

… Wait.

I’m still not understanding what Breggren has to do with anything?

Could you explain how Peterka scoring 35g and 45a in 80 games in his 19 year old season is similar in anyway to Breggren scoring 21g and 43a in 70 games as a 21 year old?

Not to mention that one was ranked 23rd in his draft, the other 38th.

 

[57special]

LOL Sens have Dorion as our GM. No need to be so scared, dude.

Guerin would probably propose the deal, and Dorion would say, "no".

 

[WingsMJN2965]

I’m still not understanding what Breggren has to do with anything?

Could you explain how Peterka scoring 35g and 45a in 80 games in his 19 year old season is similar in anyway to Breggren scoring 21g and 43a in 70 games as a 21 year old?

Not to mention that one was ranked 23rd in his draft, the other 38th.

You can use age an an excuse just like I can use team quality as an excuse, buddy.

We can also ignore that Berggren was ranked low due to his size. (Fair to say Paterka got shafted for being German, too)

Doesn’t change the fact that teams aren’t trading a top 10 pick for either until they prove it in the NHL. Nobody gives a shit about PPG AHL production.

 

[BondraTime]

You can use age an an excuse just like I can use team quality as an excuse, buddy.

We can also ignore that Berggren was ranked low due to his size. (Fair to say Paterka got shafted for being German, too)

Doesn’t change the fact that teams aren’t trading a top 10 pick for either.

I'm not using an excuse, I've brought multiple reasons backed with facts and stats, you've brought....your opinion I guess?

Sabres would't trade Peterka for a pick in the 6-10 range this year, I definitely wouldn't if I were the team that owned Peterka.

 

[MardyBum]

Can't imagine Ottawa trades the ability to pick their own prospect for another prospect, especially one with only 2 NHL games experience. They'd just take their guy.

Wonder if they swing for the fences and try and unite the Tkachuks

 

[WingsMJN2965]

I'm not using an excuse, I've brought multiple reasons backed with facts and stats, you've brought....your opinion I guess?

Sabres would't trade Peterka for a pick in the 6-10 range this year, I definitely wouldn't if I were the team that owned Peterka.

Ahh yes, Peterka stats are facts and stats. Berggren's stats are, "My opinion".

We can stop, bud. Again, you're confident enough about it that the Peterka for a Top Ten Pick poll should back you up.

 

[BondraTime]

Can't imagine Ottawa trades the ability to pick their own prospect for another prospect, especially one with only 2 NHL games experience. They'd just take their guy.

Wonder if they swing for the fences and try and unite the Tkachuks

Agreed, Sens wouldn't trade the pick for another prospect.

If they trade the pick, it would be in a package for an impact NHLer.

Not sure how Tkachuk would fit in long term with his contract, would be difficult to fit in longterm at 9.5+ million x 8

 

[Emerica]

I could see Verbeek wanting to move up from 10 if Jiricek or Nemec are there

And Ottawa wouldn’t trade out of that pick if either of them are there. Unless you are offering a young top-6 winger for the pick.

 

[edguy]

Can't imagine Ottawa trades the ability to pick their own prospect for another prospect, especially one with only 2 NHL games experience. They'd just take their guy.

Wonder if they swing for the fences and try and unite the Tkachuks

I genuinely wonder what kind of offer it would take to get him out of Calgary?

7th OA+Top 10 protected 2023 first (turns into a 2024 1st)+Colin White+Ridley Greig

I think itd be a great fit, as long as we can keep him, Brady, Norris, Stutzle, Chabot, Sanderson around for a long time we will have a competitive team

 

[99ovr]

I genuinely wonder what kind of offer it would take to get him out of Calgary?

7th OA+Top 10 protected 2023 first (turns into a 2024 1st)+Colin White+Ridley Greig

I think itd be a great fit, as long as we can keep him, Brady, Norris, Stutzle, Chabot, Sanderson around for a long time we will have a competitive team

Honestly if we're going for M.Tkachuk we should just offer sheet him 11m for 4 years (4 1st round picks compensation) and that way we can still use those other assets to make moves or keep. With M.Tkachuk plus trading the 7OA, the young core taking a step forward and a full season of Pinto+Sanderson, we are definitely a WC team

 

[Duncstar]

Really interested in if Chicago would move ?Connor Murphy? + 2nd/prospect for our 7oa + Zeitsev.

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Really interested in if Chicago would move ?Connor Murphy? + 2nd/prospect for our 7oa + Zeitsev.

Unless I’m badly sleeping on Murphy that doesn’t get you close to 7th.

 

[edguy]

Really interested in if Chicago would move ?Connor Murphy? + 2nd/prospect for our 7oa + Zeitsev.

No chance Ottawa does that.

 

[GermanSpitfire]

FWIW, Senators fans have an unhealthy obsession with J.J Peterka.