Friedman: Ottawa's 7th overall pick is available for trade

[Golden_Jet]

their loss again, I dont think they will get better player at 7 in this draft.

They passed on him last year in the second round, so no I don’t see them giving 7OA ,
The 7th if used will be a package for top 4 D, or top 6 forward., not a prospect.

 

[Langdon Alger]

their loss again, I dont think they will get better player at 7 in this draft.

Nice try

 

[BondraTime]

They passed on him last year in the second round, so no I don’t see them giving 7OA ,
The 7th if used will be a package for top 4 D, or top 6 forward., not a prospect.

Well I mean, they passed on lots of players I’m sure they’d trade a ton for.

Peterka is probably worth ~ a top 10 pick right now.

Sens don’t do it, because if they trade their pick they are looking for an impact player at the NHL level, but prospect wise, Peterka would be in line to be valued like a guy slated in the top 5-10 in this draft.

 

[ColbyChaos]

Well I mean, they passed on lots of players I’m sure they’d trade a ton for.

Peterka is probably worth ~ a top 10 pick right now.

Sens don’t do it, because if they trade their pick they are looking for an impact player at the NHL level, but prospect wise, Peterka would be in line to be valued like a guy slated in the top 5-10 in this draft.

lol no he isnt

 

[BondraTime]

lol no he isnt

Yes, he is. How many 19 year old AHLers usually put up a ppg?

I’d wager that none of the guys slated to go from 5-15 in this draft would.

 

[57special]

Call me crazy, but I think the Sens would rather have a PPG NHL player in exchange for the #7oa, not a PPG AHL'er.

 

[BondraTime]

Call me crazy, but I think the Sens would rather have a PPG NHL player in exchange for the #7oa, not a PPG AHL'er.

Well, yeah. That’s been said by everyone, Sens are trading the pick in a package for an NHL impact player.

But value wise, Peterka has the value of ~10th overall pick if he were being shopped.

If a team, like Minnesota for example, were trading Fiala, they would likely value Peterka and the 7th very similarly.

If you pick a guy at 7 and then 2 years later he is trending like Peterka, you’re extremely happy.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Yes, he is. How many 19 year old AHLers usually put up a ppg?

I’d wager that none of the guys slated to go from 5-15 in this draft would.

It would have to be a non North American as well, as no 19 years old in AHL.
Plus looking for proven NHLer .

 

[Hale The Villain]

I'd consider trading the 7th for Peterka if that were an option.

He clearly projects as a top 6 forward at this point. PPG in the AHL at 19 is very very impressive.

Could be a decent NHLer as soon as next season and a great long-term linemate for his countryman Stutzle. Had great chemistry at the WJC.

 

[thegoldenbrett]

I would trade the 7th Overall, Brown and Ridly Grieg for Fiala then sign Giroux and Klingberg and Buyout Matt Murray.

Tkachuk-Norris-Batherson
Fiala-Stutzle-Giroux
Formenton-Pinto-Joseph

Chabot-Klingberg
Sanderson-Zub
Brannstrom-Hamonic

Forsberg
Sogaard

That is a playoff team.

If the Sens buyout Matt Murray, the Stars should sign and send him to the AHL. They would have a goalie tandem of Matt Murray and Matt Murray!

 

[BatVader]

Mark Scheifele might be available. If Jiricek is still on the board at #7, Jets might make a move

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Wright seems like a Hischier level prospect, maybe a bit better, going into the draft. Obviously, with hindsight, we can point to players like Makar and Rantanen, but hindsight is 20/20.

My fear from a MN POV is that Guerin trades Fiala for Boucher, Brown, and a conditional 2023 2nd.

LOL Sens have Dorion as our GM. No need to be so scared, dude.

 

[edguy]

I'd consider trading the 7th for Peterka if that were an option.

He clearly projects as a top 6 forward at this point. PPG in the AHL at 19 is very very impressive.

Could be a decent NHLer as soon as next season and a great long-term linemate for his countryman Stutzle. Had great chemistry at the WJC.

I'd love Peterka, but not for 7OA, we could arguably get a better prospect at 7. We need a proven asset for 7 not a mystery box if we trade the pick.

 

[jfhabs]

Wright seems like a Hischier level prospect, maybe a bit better, going into the draft. Obviously, with hindsight, we can point to players like Makar and Rantanen, but hindsight is 20/20.

My fear from a MN POV is that Guerin trades Fiala for Boucher, Brown, and a conditional 2023 2nd.

Yeah that'd be terrible for you guys

 

[AuraSphere]

Yes, he is. How many 19 year old AHLers usually put up a ppg?

I’d wager that none of the guys slated to go from 5-15 in this draft would.

By that logic Nicholas Robertson is also worth a top 10 pick

 

[ColbyChaos]

Yes, he is. How many 19 year old AHLers usually put up a ppg?

I’d wager that none of the guys slated to go from 5-15 in this draft would.

My favorite team has one too guy.

Most 19 yearolds are either in college or the CHL so dumb point to try and use as a gotcha in an obscene argument

 

[The Marquis]

Ottawa, here's a t-shirt and the 9th pick for your 7th. Thanks.

 

[KaseMeOutside]

I could see Verbeek wanting to move up from 10 if Jiricek or Nemec are there

 

[Canucks LB]

Boeser 1-1 for 7th?
Perfect winger for the sens, still young

 

[16thOverallSaveUs]

This is an extremely weak draft.
All teams try to trade away their 1st rounders.
The market return won't be that great

The fact is all drafts end up looking pretty much the same in terms of depth. They all have 28-31 players that will carve out significant careers (300+ games). Sure, the top 3 in this draft isn’t the greatest. I’d argue it’s as good as last years, but I think the 4-15 range will have some good players come out of it.

 

[BondraTime]

My favorite team has one too guy.

Most 19 yearolds are either in college or the CHL so dumb point to try and use as a gotcha in an obscene argument

It's not a gotcha, nor an obscene argument. You hope that your 1st/2nd round picks look as good as Peterka has at 19 when they are in the AHL at 20-22

It's a "this 19 year old, who's peers are playing with him in the AHL at the moment, as well as in the CHL and NCAA, is leading his AHL team in scoring (Quinn notwithstanding) and looking extremely good in doing so."

He was seen as a top 20ish prospect (23rd by Bob) in the very strong 2020 draft, and has done nothing since but get better and better. It only makes sense that his value has skyrocketed.

He's got the most points ever scored in the AHL all time for a 19 year old (Patrick Elias, Rantanen, Vborny, Bergeron, Voloshenko the 5 guys behind him)

You're right, most guys are in the CHL/Europe/NCAA at that age, but there are guys every single year who play in the AHL at 19.

This year alone from the 2020 draft there was:

Lukas Reichel 17th - 56gp 21g 36a 57p --- 5gp 2g 0a 2p in playoffs
JJ Peterka 34th - 70gp 28g 40a 68p --- 10gp 7g 5a 12p in playoffs
Jacob Perrault 27th - 55gp 14g 23a 37p --- 2gp 1g 0a 1p in playoffs
Alexander Holtz 7th - 52gp 26g 25a 51p --- 5gp 2g 1a 3p in playoffs
Roby Jarventie 33nd - 70gp 11g 22a 33p --- 2gp 1g 0a 1p in playoffs
Jean Luc Foudy 75th - 65gp 9g 17a 26p --- 7gp 3g 3a 6p in playoffs



Among other guys getting cups of coffee (Foerester, Ponomaryov, etc) or putting in the time until they were called to stick in the NHL (Perfetti, Byfield, etc.)

 

[BondraTime]

By that logic Nicholas Robertson is also worth a top 10 pick

If you think the small forward putting up 5 goals and 11 assists in 21 games as a 19 year old is the same as what Peterka is doing now (80gp 35g 45a 80p), not too sure what to tell you

 

[Big Muddy]

Ottawa, here's a t-shirt and the 9th pick for your 7th. Thanks.

???

 

[AuraSphere]

If you think the small forward putting up 5 goals and 11 assists in 21 games as a 19 year old is the same as what Peterka is doing now (80gp 35g 45a 80p), not too sure what to tell you

You keep saying 19 but Peterka is 20 and only 4 months younger than Robertson lol. You need to compare this season. He has 16 goals and 12 assists in 28 games (28gp 16g 12a 28p).

I know Peterka is a better prospect, but I'm using your flawed logic of ppg. Jack Quinn is the real special talent that buffalo has coming up

 

[WingsMJN2965]

Well I mean, they passed on lots of players I’m sure they’d trade a ton for.

Peterka is probably worth ~ a top 10 pick right now.

Sens don’t do it, because if they trade their pick they are looking for an impact player at the NHL level, but prospect wise, Peterka would be in line to be valued like a guy slated in the top 5-10 in this draft.

Peterka is not remotely close to being worth a top 10 pick.