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OT: Other Sports: Broncos, Nuggets, Rockies... IV
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Elway and Sakic are the clear answers for the other two teams.
I think Jokic could get there, but 30 years removed, I don't think people realize how good Alex English really was. I'd argue he was a top 50 player of all time and certainly one of the best scorers of the 80s.
True, but Jokic is in the midst of greatest run by a Nugget.
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I don't even know about that... Jokic is in year 3 or 4 of what looks to be a great prime. English was a top ~10-15 player in the NBA for nearly a decade. Jokic has a higher high right now, but he hasn't sustained yet. If he plays at this level for 3-4 more years, he'll surpass English.
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Mine would be: Elway, Davis, Sakic, and Forsberg.
Each is a HOFer. Each has multiple rings and greatly impacted that success. I think each has won mvps in their sports.
Helton can't touch that. Neither can English. The only people coming close are other Avs (Roy for example) or other Broncos (Miller maybe?).
The best ever season for a Rockies was probably Larry Walker in 1997. Helton hasn't come close to that. Its just that he played his entire career in Colorado.
Each is a HOFer. Each has multiple rings and greatly impacted that success. I think each has won mvps in their sports.
Helton can't touch that. Neither can English. The only people coming close are other Avs (Roy for example) or other Broncos (Miller maybe?).
The best ever season for a Rockies was probably Larry Walker in 1997. Helton hasn't come close to that. Its just that he played his entire career in Colorado.
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Mine would be JR Smith, Ubaldo Jimenez, Wojtek Wolski, and Peyton Hollis.
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I didn't watch English so I just have the stats/awards to go off of. English made 3 All-NBA 2nd teams, and his highest MVP finish was 6th overall. He did lead the league in scoring once and was consistently in the top 5. Jokic has made a 1st team All-NBA, 2nd team All-NBA, and finished 4th overall in MVP voting. He's going to win the MVP and grab another 1st team All-NBA selection this season.
I dunno. Jokic winning the MVP this year even if injuries played a role in it is huge. No Nugget has ever won it before. Even playoff success. Furthest English made it was the conference finals, same as Jokic.
And he should have been 1st team last year but the voters put in Unibrow out of position to kiss the Lakers asses.
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Easily the worst quarter/half Knicks have played all season, but the MVP is just too big for us to defend with a game being called this tightly. We had 3 fouls & a tech before the first two minutes of the game had even passed
Some fun half-time stats: in starting PG Elfrid Payton's 8 minutes on the court we are -18. In the 16 minutes that Elf spent on the bench we were -3...just try to tell me that this FO didn't want to tank lol
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My 4 would be Elway, Davis, Sakic and Forsberg as well.
English, Jokic, Helton, Billups, Missy Franklin, Dave Logan, Peyton Manning, Pat Bowlen would all be honorable mentions for me.
if I had to put together a miserable 4 it’d probably be Rae Carruth, Kenyon Martin, Carmelo and JR. I couldn’t stand that Thuggets era.
English, Jokic, Helton, Billups, Missy Franklin, Dave Logan, Peyton Manning, Pat Bowlen would all be honorable mentions for me.
if I had to put together a miserable 4 it’d probably be Rae Carruth, Kenyon Martin, Carmelo and JR. I couldn’t stand that Thuggets era.
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I'm a bit shocked you didn't go with Brad May, Tyler Arnasson or the Superstar Wyatt Smith.
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I was gunna ask; has Shaq Harrison been that feisty all year or did he just have the game of his life + we were just that sloppy? He was really hounding ballhandlers -- both on-ball & when he helped -- and did a great job of playing the passing lanes.
That combo of length & feisty guards around the Joker is a problem...even if MPJ still needs to realize that other players can't just shoot over everyone, so they actually move around without the ball when he's supposed to be defending them
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Interesting to see that Malone went with a big lineup and beat the Knicks at their own game. Speaks to their versatility, they aren't necessarily a team that has to score a ton of points to beat an opponent.
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The Denver sports Mount Rushmore would be John Elway, Joe Sakic, Alex English, and probably Todd Helton. I get that Todd Helton was not ever the "greatest ever" Rockie, but he was the face of the franchise during their greatest successes. He was the number one biggest reason the team went on that insane tear in 2007. The man's a legend, I don't care what his stats say. It cannot be understated how he helped keep the Rockies franchise relevant despite the best efforts of the owner and GMs to make it otherwise.
The Greatest Evers are
Broncos - Elway
Avalanche - Sakic (yes, Sakic, not Forsberg)
Nuggets - English (that may change soon)
Rockies - Arenado
The Greatest Evers are
Broncos - Elway
Avalanche - Sakic (yes, Sakic, not Forsberg)
Nuggets - English (that may change soon)
Rockies - Arenado
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