Dreger: Oilers trade ask on Puljujarvi too high

[NORiculous]

Apparently he wants no part of the ahl. Him busting is his own fault.

When I hear stuff like that, I put a lot of it in the team brass.

As an example, Zadorov did not want to AHL when he was in BUF. It took a coach (Roy) that knows how to talk to his players to convince Zadorov he would get better faster in the AHL. It worked.

If Puljujarvi doesn’t want to go in the AHL right now, maybe it is because no one has correctly explained WHY it is good for him and his career. In any event, he is not sold on it... and that is totally on the team.

 

[ottomaddox]

Poor EDM. Pennies on the dollar from now until the MacT and Lowe finally step away from the franchise.

 

[GBLeaf]

I wonder if the smarter move would be to make him a part of a bigger deal.

Not suggesting this would happen in a million years but something like:

Puljujarvi
Larsson

//

Nylander
Liljegren

Or something where you are swapping something with another team where they fill a position of need, and return the favour.

Pulj/Lilj both had the initial expectancy of being lights out, but haven't made that initial step. Yet both can still be very effective NHL'ers if nutured right.

 

[Mr Papagoergyo]

What was the point in drafting player(s) , if you hate them by the end of their entry level contract.
NHL Players in general avoid edmonton as in signing there, edmonton better hope a drafted player doesn't decide not to report to the team.

 

[Perfect_Drug]

JP is only 20.

:/

Arizona gave up on Dylan Strome at 21 years old. They gave up on Maximum Domi at 22.
Two Trades that will haunt them for the next decade.

Edmonton has a pretty long history of giving up on overly young players for utter garbage. I don't see why we wouldn't just keep him and hope he figures it out down the line.


On paper he's everything we need. Huge fast skilled winger with a heavy shot, and severely lacking any semblance of confidence.

 

[The Winter Soldier]

JP is only 20.

:/

Arizona gave up on Dylan Strome at 21 years old. They gave up on Maximum Domi at 22.
Two Trades that will haunt them for the next decade.

Edmonton has a pretty long history of giving up on overly young players for utter garbage. I don't see why we wouldn't just keep him and hope he figures it out down the line.


On paper he's everything we need. Huge fast skilled winger with a heavy shot, and severely lacking any semblance of confidence.

Precisely, I believe if the Oilers trade Puljujarvi, it may come back to haunt them. The kid is 20 and he really hasn't had much chance to show what he can be. He just needs to get playing regularly, whether this is in the AHL or NHL. He's got too much skill to not be a NHL player.

 

[Leafs87]

I wonder if the smarter move would be to make him a part of a bigger deal.

Not suggesting this would happen in a million years but something like:

Puljujarvi
Larsson

//

Nylander
Liljegren

Or something where you are swapping something with another team where they fill a position of need, and return the favour.

Pulj/Lilj both had the initial expectancy of being lights out, but haven't made that initial step. Yet both can still be very effective NHL'ers if nutured right.

Absolutely zero chance.

Maybe Kapanen and Zaitsev and 2nd/3rd for Pul and Larsson

Nylander holds way more value than any of that assets.

 

[XXIV97]

I wonder if the smarter move would be to make him a part of a bigger deal.

Not suggesting this would happen in a million years but something like:

Puljujarvi
Larsson

//

Nylander
Liljegren

Or something where you are swapping something with another team where they fill a position of need, and return the favour.

Pulj/Lilj both had the initial expectancy of being lights out, but haven't made that initial step. Yet both can still be very effective NHL'ers if nutured right.

Deal. No take backs.

Larsson <Nylander

 

[FeatherHead]

Pulju for Roslovic

What do you say Jets fans ?

The Jets already have a Finn that hasn’t scored in like, a quarter of a season. They don’t regally need another.

 

[viceroy]

Cale Fleury + our earliest 2nd this year?

Yup. Those 2 assets are each worth more than a soon-to-bust Winger. Brook looks like he's gonna be awesome and 2nds are worth it with a good scouting team. We got Romanov this year with a 2nd. Who'd you rather have?

mark my words 70 to 80 point winger in 2 to 3 years time.

So from zero to an elite Winger. You know when they say never say never? Never.

hey this time they can get a good d-man for poolparty; unlike hall for larson

Larsson's a good Dman. Just not worth Hall. And FYI you won't get a Larsson for Puljujarvi.

Puljujarvi
Larsson

//

Nylander
Liljegren

Money won't work.

 

[justafan22]

Friedman: Oilers being patient on Puljujarvi front

“The bottom line is I know they’ve had offers, and they’ve said no,” indicated Friedman. “Anybody who is worried they would give him away - what I have been told is they’ve had the opportunity to do that and they just haven’t done it. So they’re at least being patient.

 

[MikeK]

Because giving him away is exactly what it's going to take. No team in the league is going to give them what they want. He's a former 4th OA selection whose looking more and more like another bust destined for the Euro leagues. They'll be lucky to get a 2nd for him. More likely it'll be a struggling prospect swap or a 3rd/4th.

 

[greasysnapper]

Because giving him away is exactly what it's going to take. No team in the league is going to give them what they want. He's a former 4th OA selection whose looking more and more like another bust destined for the Euro leagues. They'll be lucky to get a 2nd for him. More likely it'll be a struggling prospect swap or a 3rd/4th.

Nah, if Lazar can get a 2nd Puljujarvi can get one. That has to be the base level of what to expect.

 

[DownGoesMcDavid]

Sound like Puljujarvi is very unhappy in Edmonton and wants out

 

[Bounces R Way]

Well at least they've waited to now to be patient with Puljujarvi.

 

[POVERTY]

I wonder if Arizona and Edmonton make side bets on who can squander young talent the fastest

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Sound like Puljujarvi is very unhappy in Edmonton and wants out

That’s too bad.

He was the victim of idiotic coaching and personnel decisions... but that being said, if he wants out, he needs to play better and up his trade value. Giving him away for scrap is of no benefit.

 

[Seachd]

Because giving him away is exactly what it's going to take.

It sounds like you think they're trying to trade him.

 

[Maukkis]

20-year-old busts are not a thing, but given everything we have seen from Pulju, there is nothing desireable in that body of work. Can't imagine the offers being anything more than 'wanna free up a roster spot' or along those lines.

 

[justafan22]

That’s too bad.

He was the victim of idiotic coaching and personnel decisions... but that being said, if he wants out, he needs to play better and up his trade value. Giving him away for scrap is of no benefit.

Here's more context:

 

[Apathetic]

Because giving him away is exactly what it's going to take. No team in the league is going to give them what they want. He's a former 4th OA selection whose looking more and more like another bust destined for the Euro leagues. They'll be lucky to get a 2nd for him. More likely it'll be a struggling prospect swap or a 3rd/4th.

Strome, a struggling 4th overall pick was just the base for Schmaltz (a guy who put up 50 points the year prior). Chicago looks like they may have gotten an absolute steal.

Puljijarvi is a struggling 4th overall pick, who is a year younger than Strome and its likely the Oilers will get a third or fourth round pick?

How do you reconcile those two things?

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

That’s too bad.

He was the victim of idiotic coaching and personnel decisions... but that being said, if he wants out, he needs to play better and up his trade value. Giving him away for scrap is of no benefit.

...to the Oilers. Other than that, I agree.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

Here's more context:

I saw that earlier... it strikes me as odd. Puljujarvi was a good soldier when he was sent down earlier this year, has been putting in extra work before and after practice, and was Bakersfield’s best player in 3 of the 4 games he was down for.

I’m wondering how much of this is Puljujarvi and how much is his agent.

 

[34]

Because giving him away is exactly what it's going to take. No team in the league is going to give them what they want. He's a former 4th OA selection whose looking more and more like another bust destined for the Euro leagues. They'll be lucky to get a 2nd for him. More likely it'll be a struggling prospect swap or a 3rd/4th.

This. He is a bust.

 

[krutovsdonut]

not sure why this player is being shopped at the tdl. he is no help to a typical tdl buyer and oilers should not be looking for help themselves. it is the wrong market.

i would be trying to move him in the summer when everyone is focused on the future.