Speculation: Offseason thread #2: We don't use Roman Numerals in the offseason.

[Mac n Gs]

Here's a live look at Jim Sullivan in his office (lol, like they gave him an office)

Leslie did mention that we moved Hags even though our analytics guys said not to

 

[Off Sides]

It makes zero sense. Locked up for his prime years, plays all situations, great two way game and great PKer, productive at 1st line level, alternate captain. He's only 26!

He should be 100% off the table.

His no trade clause is not in effect, his cap hit is 6.5M, and Stamkos is looking like he may hit the market.

So while I totally agree with you Stepan should not even be remotely on the table, Rangers are the Rangers.


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Similar to Nash, moving him now unless he has a degenerative injury makes less sense than moving him at either of the next two trade deadlines when teams are handing out picks and good prospects for guys like Eric Staal, MSL, Yandle, Ladd


With that said if they are moving these players as a means to really blow this whole thing up and are going to garner as many picks and prospects back in the process, and they will be patient with the multi year process, it's a little different. But that is so far off my radar as to what I think they'll do I have not really contemplated it.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

There are many worse airports to be in (this coming from someone that flew out of there every Monday and back home there every Friday).


It was Russell for Jyrki Jokipakka, Brett Pollock and round 2 pick in the 2016 draft

Lol I just hate this airport... I always seemed to caught up here forever but I fly through laguardia jfk And Logan(Boston)

 

[DanielBrassard]

Here's a live look at Jim Sullivan in his office (lol, like they gave him an office)

I'm pretty sure Jim Sullivan doesn't exist. Or it's the name for Sathers Computer.

 

[RangerBoy]

Maybe the Rangers feel Stepan will bring back the most in a trade. Looking at the Rangers roster,he would bring back the most. Flip a coin between him and McDonagh.

 

[Gardner McKay]

I mean honestly. Am I way off base in wanting 7th OV + Hanzal ++ from AZ if they are the trading partner?

 

[Raspewtin]

Maybe the Rangers feel Stepan will bring back the most in a trade. Looking at the Rangers roster,he would bring back the most. Flip a coin between him and McDonagh.

No it would easily be McDonagh.

 

[Dr. Ogrodnick]

I'm pretty sure Jim Sullivan doesn't exist. Or it's the name for Sathers Computer.

So, when the Rangers say they are consulting with Sullivan, its just Sather looking up fishing videos on youtube? That explains a lot, actually.

 

[Trxjw]

If we aren't getting a Jordan Staalpackage or a high level D, he shouldn't be traded. I don't see why he couldn't bring that back, he's better than Jordan.

The catch is Staal's age and upside. Stepan is what he is for the most part, but Staal had a big year in the absence of Crosby right before he was dealt. I bet Carolina thought he was turning into the big #1C a lot of people projected him to be.

Hanzal, Fischer and #7 is something I would chew on from Arizona. Then turn around and see if I could get a defender for Hanzal. #7 is a position that could pay off very well for the Rangers. Could move up to swap with Edmonton (to get a D) or possibly Columbus (so they can move down for Brown), or could move back to let a team leap-frog Buffalo to get the defender they want and get whoever sides down the board. I think that pick is probably the most valuable pick in terms of flexibility.

Gotta say, the idea of the Rangers drafting an elite talent is pretty enticing.

 

[Trxjw]

So, I listened to the podcast Pierre did and it's a little scary. It's moving a player and eating half his salary to get back 2 second round picks.

"One team that is prepared to trade an established player, and eat half of his money, just to get some draft picks into their stable because they've been moving their draft picks around a lot so they could try and establish a team that could compete for the cup."

Here's the podcast:
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/ottawa-1200-1.511175

Starts at 14 minutes.

 

[Raspewtin]

So, I listened to the podcast Pierre did and it's a little scary. It's moving a player and eating half his salary to get back 2 second round picks.

That better be one of the wonder twins...

 

[Irishguy42]

So, I listened to the podcast Pierre did and it's a little scary. It's moving a player and eating half his salary to get back 2 second round picks.

That sounds like Staal might have found a new home.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

That better be one of the wonder twins...

O god no... If we're eating half the cap it better be Nash.. That's only be 2 years. If your eating half of girardis cap u might as well buy him out itd be cheaper for us

 

[Mac n Gs]

That better be one of the wonder twins...

Agreed.

 

[Trxjw]

That better be one of the wonder twins...

That sounds like Staal might have found a new home.

I'd hope so, but jesus that's a lot of dead money for an awfully long time.

 

[Raspewtin]

O god no... If we're eating half the cap it better be Nash.. That's only be 2 years. If your eating half of girardis cap u might as well buy him out itd be cheaper for us

But if it's for something that actually has value like 2 2nds, it's probably worth it.

I'd hope so, but jesus that's a lot of dead money for an awfully long time.

I think the idea of having to protect M. Staal in the exp. draft might force this deal (if it were to be) to get done.

 

[EpicDing]

Maybe they use the money from Stepan to re-sign Yandle?

 

[glees68]

So, I listened to the podcast Pierre did and it's a little scary. It's moving a player and eating half his salary to get back 2 second round picks.



Here's the podcast:
http://www.tsn.ca/radio/ottawa-1200-1.511175

Starts at 14 minutes.

Thank you for sharing! Hopefully that is Staal because I'll be severely disappointed and discouraged if that's about Nash.

 

[Lundy HOF]

What would we have to add to get back Strome+7OA for Step. If Step goes I want a PREMIUM package, not a fair value deal.

 

[Irishguy42]

I'd hope so, but jesus that's a lot of dead money for an awfully long time.

Definitely not something that is appealing, but if it's the only retention made for at least this offseason, I'd be willing to bite the bullet.

Maybe they use the money from Stepan to re-sign Yandle?

Depends on the return. If we get back only picks and prospects, then sure. But if we get back a roster player...

 

[UAGoalieGuy]

Two seconds with $2.85 for Staal isn't the worst deal. If it's Nash then I would be pissed.

 

[Zibanejbread]

I've been away without internet since Thursday. Is it possible to get a cliff notes version of any new news that has happened in the past few days? Looking at the last couple pages, I'm seeing some topics that I wasn't expecting to. Thanks in advance.

 

[The Undertaker]

Lol you guys think it's Staal or Girardi? Gonna be Nash.

 

[RangerBoy]

Retaining salary has to be the same %/$ amount in every year of the contract.

 

[haohmaru]

If Staal + salary retention = 2 2nd's I'm all in. I *highly* doubt that's the deal, though.

(edit) and, FWIW, Staal is not "significant". Nash is.