Speculation: Offseason thread #2: We don't use Roman Numerals in the offseason.

[rangers1314]

now we all get to check twitter every 4 minutes, and nothing will happen.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Staal for a couple seconds? Sounds like a best case scenario

 

[NernieBichols]

While we do not necessarily see Staal as a significant piece, people like McGuire and much of the Toronto media likely still view him as such. Being the paranoid fanbase that we are, the worst-case is our default.

Staal would be considered a significant piece. I was just saying I dont think they are moving Staal out.

Although to me, thats the biggest wild-card, is if Gorton decides to move Staal to resign Yandle. I dont think thats the way they are gonna go, but theres another part of me that could definitely see that.

 

[Off Sides]

Tippett is an analytic guy, maybe not in the sense it is today but he has always been trying to figure it out.

http://www.defendingbigd.com/2012/4/13/2941077/dave-tippett-defense-mark-fistric-matt-niskanen

 

[Ghost of jas]

Staal for a couple seconds? Sounds like a best case scenario

Look at the prices paid by Dallas for Russell and San Jose for Polak.

 

[haohmaru]

Sounds like it's definitely the Rangers or Hawks.

Hawks have a 1st and 2 2nd's iirc. Why would it be them?

Never mind. They don't.

 

[Trxjw]

Montreal has two 2nd's this year and has been rumored to be looking for help on the wings. Nash could be a fit there. Two 2nd's and a good prospect (Juulsen, Scherbak, or McCarron) wouldn't be the worst thing if the Rangers can clear his full contract. Or they could take back Desharnais or Eller to fill in for Stepan while they try and figure out what direction to go.

 

[Vinny DeAngelo]

Look at the prices paid by Dallas for Russell and San Jose for Polak.

I'm in the Atlanta airport rn.. You can't just tell me what they costed??

 

[Irishguy42]

If Nash gets traded for two 2nd round picks I'm starting a fire Gorton thread.

Montreal has two 2nd's this year and has been rumored to be looking for help on the wings. Nash could be a fit there. Two 2nd's and a good prospect (Juulsen, Scherbak, or McCarron) wouldn't be the worst thing if the Rangers can clear his full contract. Or they could take back Desharnais or Eller to fill in for Stepan while they try and figure out what direction to go.

That's about where I'd be fine with in a Nash trade (starting at two 2nds) if we weren't retaining salary.

If we retain salary though, I think Nash brings a 1st back.

 

[Raspewtin]

if we're trading Stepan just blow it up.

 

[Gardner McKay]

I'm in the Atlanta airport rn.. You can't just tell me what they costed??

There are many worse airports to be in (this coming from someone that flew out of there every Monday and back home there every Friday).


It was Russell for Jyrki Jokipakka, Brett Pollock and round 2 pick in the 2016 draft

 

[wafflepadsave]

Someone asked many pages back if we would be okay collecting 2017 picks in lieu of 2016. I have often thought about that. Would teams be more willing to trade a 2nd '17 vs a 3rd '16? If so, why don't more teams accept that deal? It may 'hurt' at the beginning when the pick is a year away but as you move forward, you will be getting better value.

For example:

If Detroit likes Nash:

Smith + Sproul + DET 1st '17

vs

Smith + Sproul + DET 2nd '16

It may not be as 'sexy' right now but that future 1st should be a better player than the 2nd this year

I have said this before but I will repeat it again. I wouldn't be surprised if our beloved Rangers who are to be traded might happen after the draft or opening of free agency due to the fact that our guys would be second or third choices if teams lose out on particular players. With that being said, Rangers could possibly load up for the 2017 draft just as well.

 

[haohmaru]

After a little research, here are my 4 teams that Lebrun might be talking about:

NYR (no 1st or 2nd)
SJ (no 1st or 3rd)
LA (no 1st or 3rd)
Pit (no 1st or 3rd)

 

[Trxjw]

That's about where I'd be fine with in a Nash trade (starting at two 2nds) if we weren't retaining salary.

If we retain salary though, I think Nash brings a 1st back.

Yeah I think the retention would be the difference. Agreed.

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

if we're trading Stepan just blow it up.

It makes zero sense. Locked up for his prime years, plays all situations, great two way game and great PKer, productive at 1st line level, alternate captain. He's only 26!

He should be 100% off the table.

 

[Raspewtin]

It makes zero sense. Locked up for his prime years, plays all situations, great two way game and great PKer, productive at 1st line level, alternate captain. He's only 26!

He should be 100% off the table.

I just really want to know why he seems to be the 1st to go.

He's the 2nd player I'd keep around if we were to rebuild.

 

[TheTakedown]

If Nash gets traded for two 2nd round picks I'm starting a fire Gorton thread.

Well, on the bright side, cap space? Lol

 

[Gardner McKay]

I just really want to know why he seems to be the 1st to go.

He's the 2nd player I'd keep around if we were to rebuild.

I would hope because Gorton possibly has an offer for a Kings ransom for Stepan. I have no problem trading him if the offer is correct. I would prefer to trade Brassard instead of they are trying to recoup but that is a different story.

 

[silverfish]

I just really want to know why he seems to be the 1st to go.

He's the 2nd player I'd keep around if we were to rebuild.

Same, right behind Glass.

There's too much smoke for there not to be fire, and I really don't get it.

Brassard can't play in Stepan's situations.

If the FO's off-season is truly to move Stepan to make room for Stamkos, then... I... I really don't know.

 

[Raspewtin]

Same, right behind Glass.

There's too much smoke for there not to be fire, and I really don't get it.

Brassard can't play in Stepan's situations.

If the FO's off-season is truly to move Stepan to make room for Stamkos, then... I... I really don't know.

My fandom would be severely tested.

 

[Trxjw]

I just really want to know why he seems to be the 1st to go.

He's the 2nd player I'd keep around if we were to rebuild.

Because outside of McDonagh, he probably gets the biggest return of any player in the organization. If they want to rapidly replenish the pool and shake up the team, he's the perfect fit.

Now, do I want to move him? No, but I would if the return knocked my socks off.

 

[Ghost of jas]

I'm in the Atlanta airport rn.. You can't just tell me what they costed??

Dallas gave up Jokipakka, a forward prospect and 2nd that was a conditional 1st.

The Sharks gave up Raffi Torres (cap measures) a 2017 2nd and a 2018 2nd for Polak and Spaling. Staal brings back at least 2nd.

I could see the Kings being a landing place for Staal.

 

[silverfish]

Here's a live look at Jim Sullivan in his office (lol, like they gave him an office)

 

[DanielBrassard]

Because outside of McDonagh, he probably gets the biggest return of any player in the organization. If they want to rapidly replenish the pool and shake up the team, he's the perfect fit.

Now, do I want to move him? No, but I would if the return knocked my socks off.

If we aren't getting a Jordan Staalpackage or a high level D, he shouldn't be traded. I don't see why he couldn't bring that back, he's better than Jordan.

 

[Gardner McKay]

Because outside of McDonagh, he probably gets the biggest return of any player in the organization. If they want to rapidly replenish the pool and shake up the team, he's the perfect fit.

Now, do I want to move him? No, but I would if the return knocked my socks off.

I would move any player if the return knocked my socks off. Now, the definition of that would vary from poster to poster. This nonsense of people thinking it is Hanzal + 2nd for Stepan? Start with the 7th overall. Add in Hanzal and keep on going.