Henry Miller
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Flyers shouldn’t trust themselves and take the consensus BPA. They’ll get cute though and f*** it up
As much as it gets harped on with JvR that’s really not bad outcome at all even if it didn’t end up the most ideal. He was still a top line winger for a good chunk of his career (top six at worst). The Flyers just traded him away during his peak years for a bottom pairing defender. The guy in front of him went on to become a HoF caliber player & scored the GWG against them in the finals. So the optics aren’t great but it underscores the actual math/percentages to these things.
It was also one isolated top pick. Usually bad teams have multiple kicks at the can with accumulating high picks. That’s what really mitigates the outcomes. Say the Flyers were one of the worst teams again in 2008 well then you’re walking away with Stamkos or Doughty possibly.
Toronto is another team where they really hit it out of the park with outcomes when they got Nylander (#8), Marner (#4), & Matthews (#1) with consecutive top picks. That’s two stars & a top line caliber players. Now that’s a pretty great outcome with that chances probably are unlikely in most cases to get those three outcomes but still they were playing the lottery on multiple occasions & not just a one & done.
I'd wager they won't make all 8 picks. But who needs the potential trade chips anyway, amirite?
Well doneInb4 Flyers move back and one of the Devil's or Blackhawks move up.
If you're looking for maximum pain, this is the result.
I would love to put Fletch on a lie detector and ask if he TRULY feels that was a good tradeGood thing we gave up 2 2nds, a 1st, and Ghost for 5+ years of Risto. What a difference maker
Ed Snider just absolutely refused to rebuild... really didn't help this club.
You really need to bottom out and let the lotto balls fall with you and against you. I really don't see how the Flyers are going to be gamers in the next few years.
Didn't you know?Good thing we gave up 2 2nds, a 1st, and Ghost for 5+ years of Risto. What a difference maker he is.
One more win and the Flyers would have been picking 2nd.
Well he is a difference maker. He has a massive negative impact, which definitely makes a difference.Good thing we gave up 2 2nds, a 1st, and Ghost for 5+ years of Risto. What a difference maker he is.
Literally no one is shocked
Didn't just leap the Flyers, but also leapt over your Kraken.lol, i f***ing called it..
NJD leap frog us to take the guy we would taken..
epic....
#sameasiteverwas
To be fair they actually pulled off a successful on the fly rebuild back then. They obviously had Richards, Carter, & Gagne at the pro level. Giroux & JvR were some of the best drafted prospects in the league at that time. They did bring in a surplus of talent with like Briere, Timonen, Hartnell, Coburn, Lupul, etc. for what they traded out. But they had more assets & cap to play with. The CBA was different too.
Didn't just leap the Flyers, but also leapt over your Kraken.
I’m really not a fan of this weird revisionism of the 06-07 season where the Flyers were in last place, 11 points behind the next worst team.
Adding 3 years to Couturier’s age is very Jtown.
Soooo.. does Cuck try and recoup that 2nd rounder before the draft? Surely someone needs to be whispering that thought into his ear
Well he is a difference maker. He has a massive negative impact, which definitely makes a difference.
And all it cost us was the 13th overall, the 36th overall, and a top pair D. No big deal.
Anyone who thinks Ristolainen is a better defensemen than Ghost needs to be banned from watching the sport.Even if you want to consider Ghost a bottom pair, you've essentially swapped out a bottom pair for a "middle pair" at best but with another 5 years attached to it. This is a league in which you should only be paying your top end players and not middle tier players.
The Devils are an outright scary team if you consider the cap space they have available and the ability to add Luke Hughes and the #2 OA pick to their roster.
Even if you want to consider Ghost a bottom pair, you've essentially swapped out a bottom pair for a "middle pair" at best but with another 5 years attached to it. This is a league in which you should only be paying your top end players and not middle tier players.
The Devils are an outright scary team if you consider the cap space they have available and the ability to add Luke Hughes and the #2 OA pick to their roster.