NBA NBA Allows Players to Change Jersey Name to Message of Social Justice

[bleedblue1223]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I enjoy our conversations - we agree on some things, disagree on some things, but we find a way to have a respectful, interesting discussion. It's too bad these posts are so often deleted

Hey, I hope you are right on the thing we were just discussing.

 

[Terry Yake]

 

[Stylizer1]

I see. I won't look into comparable country's data to see whether that's true or not, but that makes far more sense than what I thought you were saying.

However, you're way off base on the bold. There are varying stats, but police in the US spend roughly 4% of their time dealing with violent crime. You're correct that they're overwhelmed, though - it's just that they're dealing with the homeless crisis, the drug crisis, traffic incidents, random medical issues, non violent theft, etc. And that's what "defund the police" is actually about - shifting budget from the police to services that are experts in and dedicated to handling those types of issues. I believe we still need a police force to deal with violent crime, but it's a tiny percentage of what they face every day. Can't imagine doing that job.

A large % of police budgets goes to fighting drugs.

 

[SouthGeorge]

I called it. My details of what happened were a 100% correct. It was clear as day what happened.

 

[SomeDude]

Yes because if you haven’t done anything to help then you don’t actually care about the Chinese.

Pointing out the terrible things happening there on a hockey message board is already doing more than the NBA.

 

[kmart]

However, you're way off base on the bold. There are varying stats, but police in the US spend roughly 4% of their time dealing with violent crime. You're correct that they're overwhelmed, though - it's just that they're dealing with the homeless crisis, the drug crisis, traffic incidents, random medical issues, non violent theft, etc. And that's what "defund the police" is actually about - shifting budget from the police to services that are experts in and dedicated to handling those types of issues. I believe we still need a police force to deal with violent crime, but it's a tiny percentage of what they face every day. Can't imagine doing that job.

does it matter what percentage of their time goes to dealing with violent crime ? it can be 1 % or it can be over10% in a city. its the high bar of violence that is overwhelming them... and its going to continue to do so until u stop citizens access to firearms...

imo it affects every arrest, every interaction between the police and citizens is a potential fight for ur life incident. u cant solve this problem with funding. heck, if u give officers more money, they have more to lose and be even quicker on the trigger.

 

[BKIslandersFan]

Pointing out the terrible things happening there on a hockey message board is already doing more than the NBA.

It would be if you weren’t Just using it to shut down another conversation on human rights.

 

[SomeDude]

It would be if you weren’t Just using it to shut down another conversation on human rights.

I’m not shutting down anything. Using a platform to bring light to injustice is always a good thing. I’m pointing out how hypocritical they and the league are.

If police unions contributed millions towards league revenue, would their actions be the same? I would hope so, but based on what we’ve already seen with the silence bought by China, it’s unfortunately a legitimate question.

 

[BKIslandersFan]

I’m not shutting down anything. Using a platform to bring light to injustice is always a good thing. I’m pointing out how hypocritical they and the league are.

If police unions contributed millions towards league revenue, would their actions be the same? I would hope so, but based on what we’ve already seen with the silence bought by China, it’s unfortunately a legitimate question.

Maybe the league is. But the players? Yea, I mean, how dare they focus on issues thats directly affecting them and their family?

 

[bleedblue1223]

You guys fundamentally misunderstand the Chinese critique and I really don't know if it's by accident or on purpose.

 

[SomeDude]

Maybe the league is. But the players? Yea, I mean, how dare they focus on issues thats directly affecting them and their family?

When players, like Lebron, are asked directly about the situation and the response is “we don’t know the full story,” how is that any different than when someone watches a man get shot multiple times in the back and then says “well, we need to wait to hear the other side of this”

If we only need to worry about what affects ourselves and our families directly then should I not focus on the BLM movement because it has no direct impact on me or my family? Or should I continue to support it because it’s the right thing to do?

 

[BKIslandersFan]

When players, like Lebron, are asked directly about the situation and the response is “we don’t know the full story,” how is that any different than when someone watches a man get shot multiple times in the back and then says “well, we need to wait to hear the other side of this”

Lebron should have never said that. Yes. Like...just because Lebron said something dumb shouldn't meant BLM is illegitimate. I don't know why yall think Lebron the only black man out here that matters.

If we only need to worry about what affects ourselves and our families directly then should I not focus on the BLM movement because it has no direct impact on me or my family? Or should I continue to support it because it’s the right thing to do?

If you are getting shot at, do you worry about China too?

 

[SomeDude]

Lebron should have never said that. Yes. Like...just because Lebron said something dumb shouldn't meant BLM is illegitimate. I don't know why yall think Lebron the only black man out here that matters.



If you are getting shot at, do you worry about China too?

You said that the league is ok to be criticized but not the players. I gave you an example of the highest profile player saying something hypocritical. Again, who is saying that BLM is illegitimate? NBA players have no integrity, that’s all I am saying.

Do you really think most NBA players are being shot at (at least now that Gilbert Arenas is out of the league)?

 

[BKIslandersFan]

You said that the league is ok to be criticized but not the players. I gave you an example of the highest profile player saying something hypocritical. Again, who is saying that BLM is illegitimate? NBA players have no integrity, that’s all I am saying.

Do you really think most NBA players are being shot at (at least now that Gilbert Arenas is out of the league)?

Why are you assuming NBA players are all like Lebron?

NBA players has had run in with racially profiling cops in the past. So its an issue that affects them EVEN NOW.

 

[Mickey Marner]

You guys fundamentally misunderstand the Chinese critique and I really don't know if it's by accident or on purpose.

Even ignoring Hong Kong, part of the PRC's response to Covid involved carding, evicting & refusing service to black people as well as promoting propaganda that black people were causing the spread of Covid-19.

 

[Stylizer1]

 

[SouthGeorge]

Cliffs?

 

[Stylizer1]

Cliffs?

What?

 

[Mickey Marner]

What?

Cliff's notes is what they mean. A brief summary of what the video is about.

 

[Stylizer1]

Cliff's notes is what they mean. A brief summary of what the video is about.

I thought the title was self explanatory.

 

[Sens]

They got woke and then they went Broke
NBA Will Leave Social Justice Messages To Be 'Delivered Off The Floor' Amid Ratings Dive | The Daily Wire

But the league is now struggling to retain viewership. According to Sports Illustrated, the 2020 NBA Finals, between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Miami Heat — two teams that typically draw in huge audiences — is the lowest in league history. Game 3 of the NBA Finals drew just over 5 million viewers.

“I would say, in terms of the messages you see on the court and our jerseys, this was an extraordinary moment in time when we began these discussions with the players and what we all lived through this summer. My sense is there’ll be somewhat a return to normalcy, that those messages will largely be left to be delivered off the floor,” he added.

 

[Terry Yake]

They got woke and then they went Broke
NBA Will Leave Social Justice Messages To Be 'Delivered Off The Floor' Amid Ratings Dive | The Daily Wire

But the league is now struggling to retain viewership. According to Sports Illustrated, the 2020 NBA Finals, between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Miami Heat — two teams that typically draw in huge audiences — is the lowest in league history. Game 3 of the NBA Finals drew just over 5 million viewers.

“I would say, in terms of the messages you see on the court and our jerseys, this was an extraordinary moment in time when we began these discussions with the players and what we all lived through this summer. My sense is there’ll be somewhat a return to normalcy, that those messages will largely be left to be delivered off the floor,” he added.

did anyone actually think the messages on jerseys/on the court were going to be permanent?

 

[The Night King]

Good article by Chris Haynes about the dumb narrative that ratings are down because of players voicing their opinions.

Why the narrative about declining NBA ratings is wrong

 

[John Price]

I don't mind the politics. In fact I would say the politics aren't even wrong and a national stage for said politics is good.

The NBA's decline has very little to do with politics. The NBA's decline is a serious issue into stacked super teams and lack of parity. Said this many times but nobody wants to watch GS win 5 straight Western Conference finals without breaking a sweat, playing scrubs along the way. And then people wonder why NBA ratings have taken a steep nose dive since 2012.

 

[Terry Yake]

Good article by Chris Haynes about the dumb narrative that ratings are down because of players voicing their opinions.

Why the narrative about declining NBA ratings is wrong

NBA ratings have been down since the beginning of the 19-20 season

streaming has a lot to do with that
NBA TV Ratings Down 15% as League Pushes Streaming Access – Media Play News